Reviving the post again. I emailed Motoport and specifically asked about the baggy seat of the pants. I believe I may have hit a nerve, but he promptly replies and really appears to know his business. I'm going to fly out there, get measured and give it a shot. It will be late August to Septemberish. I was going to fly to Revzilla's place in Philly and try the Rukka on but will give Motoport a shot first.
His reply:
1. The Ultra II Air Mesh Pant is an over pant and has to be baggy in the butt area when standing. The Mesh Kevlar does not stretch. If the butt of this pant is snug when standing it is impossible to sit down on the seat. We explain this fact to women ordering the Ultra II Air Mesh Pant. Many women have a serious problem with this baggy butt area when standing, the majority of men don’t. This pant goes on/off in seconds and is designed to be our best pant in the hot/humid weather. It takes seconds to check if the butt is too baggy. Put under the pants the most that would be worn in cold weather. Sit on the bike and see if the butt area is still too loose.
A very popular option is to make the entire front of the Ultra II over pant in Mesh Kevlar and the entire back section in Stretch Kevlar. We can then make the butt section fit better when standing. Motoport has also made thousands of jean style pants that fit perfect. We use a good fitting denim pant from the customer to use as a pattern. No measurements are even needed to make any of our jean style pants.
http://www.motoport.com/sizing-guides/sizing-guide-for-mens-jean-pants/
2. We recommend to our customers that are not within a few hundred miles of Motoport, to go to a tailor to get measured properly. Motoport also explains that it is important to copy how to take the measurements shown in our Sizing Guide and taking this to a tailor to get measured. There is no set way to measure and many tailors will take measurement different than we advise. Tailors make clothing for people not clothing for motorcycle riders. If the tailor measures the way they normally do for regular clothing, our gear will not fit when made. It would be better for the customer to measure compared to a tailor measuring for regular clothing.
3. If we make a mistake in sizing, we alter no charge. We also pay shipping both ways. If the customer makes a mistake in measuring we charge 50% of the normal alteration cost. If there is no clear distinction of who made the mistake we alter no charge. Note: If you check our normal alteration cost we make no profit. Motoport goes negative when charging 50% of the normal alteration cost. Average time to alter is 3 to 7 working days after the gear is returned. Motoport is in Calif.. If you live on the East Coast and ship ground, add two weeks for shipping both ways.
4. The denim pant I wear is marked with a 38 waist. If I measure my waist it is 41”. In some cases the actual measurement is 3 to 4” different than the size of the garment. There are many reasons for this measurement problem, the main reason is called vanity sizing. Manufacturers found that if they put a smaller size on clothing, they would sell more, especially with women. Motoport must get measurements the way we show in our sizing guide, not clothing sizes.
5. The Hip Measurement shown on our sizing guide determines the size of the butt on each rider. If the rider makes a mistake on the hip measurement and the butt is too tight or loose the full alteration cost is usually $49.00.
6. Motoport has spent many years developing our Sizing Guide used to show measurements and how to take them. Years ago we had a far more detailed sizing chart to fill out. We found that far more mistakes were made when the Sizing Guide was more complicated. The Sizing Guide has been refined to be as simple as possible. Even the average person should be able to follow this Guide.
http://www.motoport.com/sizing-guides/
7. One of the main reasons that the person starting this link fits well in most off the shelf motorcycle gear is the material used. His Olympia is made from plastic coated polyester that has very poor tear/abrasion/seam strength. Some of the Olympia is made from 500 Denier Cordura that is also plastic coated and tears at 21 pounds. This 500 Denier Plastic Coated Cordura is about the best you can find in synthetic motorcycle apparel. Motoport’s blended Stretch Kevlar tears at 429 pounds. Motoport’s Mesh Kevlar blend tears at 1,269 pounds. This Polyester/Cordura is thin. The sleeves are made loose/long. The jacket/pnat can be loose. This Polyester/Cordura just wrinkles up and appears to fit ok. Many of the other companies put Spandex in the areas that need to stretch. This Spandex has no tear/abrasion strength. Riders need to know what other gear is made from. Please read the following links shown on our web site:
http://www.motoport.com/the-save-your-hide-guide/
http://www.motoport.com/motoport-an-evolution/
http://www.motoport.com/what-others-say-about-motoport/