A disturbing report on Motorcycle fatalities in Ontario (Canada) was released today.
http://www.680news.com/2017/11/20/fatal-motorcycle-crashes/
http://www.680news.com/2017/11/20/fatal-motorcycle-crashes/
Only 2-3%??? I would think 8-9%. Those kids stunting should face really severe penalties.That 10% is probably caused by 2-3% of dummies that engage in stunting on the street.
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I am both shocked and horrified when I see videos of swarms of bikes surrounding vehicles.I remember when 680 AM radio news started up in Ontario,, must have been about 35 years ago. It was really good,,, no advertising,, decent journalism,, a big departure from established radio news. Big changes over the years,,, gobs of advertising,, lousy journalism,, and increasingly sensationalistic. They have gone from being like CNN,, to being like FOX news. This web article is very brief and misleading,,, and should be called out. It is based on a recently released report,,, which is going to take me a bit to wade through the 66 pages.
The motorcycle swarmings that have happened in Ontario over the past two years will kill motorcycling here. I would happily drive the bulldozer, if one could crush all their bikes. They are a disgrace. Cat'
https://www.scribd.com/document/364956295/Motorcycle-Crashes-in-Ontario#from_embed
Just as a footnote to that— here in the Bay Area there's been a few occasions where cars have done similar on freeways stopping traffic while another car or two spins 'donuts' across the lanes. I don't know that it comes to anywhere near the frequency of the motorcycle exploits on YouTube.DavidR8 said:I am both shocked and horrified when I see videos of swarms of bikes surrounding vehicles.
A solid practice but in much traffic not always possible.DavidR8 said:My response is to not put myself in that position.
Totally hear that!A solid practice but in much traffic not always possible.
Similarly I recall some research which stated that more people died in minvans and 14 passenger vans than cars. Which would lead one to think that minivans and 14 passenger vans are unsafe. What the study failed account for was that minivans and 14 passenger vans by definition can carry more people than a car.It does not take a Rhodes scholar to come to the conclusion that a MCist is more likely to be injured or die in a collision when compared to cage drivers/passengers.
Negotiating traffic in any unfamiliar area has its moments but more so in commute traffic. You do get to split lanes here but that's not something I'd recommend.DavidR8 said:In all honesty I'm quite nervous.
What's Harry Hurt doing these days?A better study would be to assign the deaths/costs to whichever type of vehicle caused the incident. The MC would probably still not be as "good" as a car but the stats would be less slanted.
Interesting how they put together deaths and relate it to idiots and their crotch rockets stunting on our highways.A disturbing report on Motorcycle fatalities in Ontario (Canada) was released today.
http://www.680news.com/2017/11/20/fatal-motorcycle-crashes/
Another saying is that there are lies, damn lies and statistics. The article has fairly useless info with little or no context.In engineering we have a saying which is germane to this discussion:
- if you torture data long enough, it will confess to darn near anything;