Alexandria to Bolivar

Jcwood3

Jason
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Age
46
Location
Mount Vernon
Bike
2007 Honda ST 1300
I bought a low mile 07 ST1300 this summer and have been making small repairs / replacements / improvements over the last few months while using it as a fair weather daily driver. Which has all been amazing. And when I need to know something, one quick search here provides a wealth of information and experience.

I wanted to squeeze one more long ride into the year so I picked Thanksgiving and took a week off planning for two two-day-ish trips on either end of the holiday week. I live in Alexandria VA (just south of DC) and my mother lives in Bolivar TN (just east of Memphis). I figured I’d try Skyline Drive in the Shenandoah National Park, and visit an old friend of mine in Camden TN (just west of Nashville) I’d visit him on the second day.

Today was Skyline Drive. Great ride. I only got to the northern part, and plan to come back. Just beautiful through there, even after all the leaves have fallen. Weather was nice (55-65 F). After that, I hit the interstate to pound out some miles. I noticed something I’d never noticed - could use some advice on this.

At higher speeds (over 65 mph), the back end felt like it was trying to “slide out”. Like a car feels during oversteer. Didn’t feel it below 55 on skyline drive. Triple checked tire pressure (boy that rear valve stem has very little clearance to get a feed valve on!) and made a check to see if anything was loose or worn - a visual, hands on check at a gas station... no tools.

I’ve ridden a Dyna for 15 years, and didn’t recall the sensation. After a while I noticed it was correlated to dirty air. Interstate had a lot of traffic, the worse the buffeting from a big truck or whatever, the worse it seemed. As this is the first time I’ve taken the ST out fully loaded (full saddle bags and a 30ish pound bag on the passenger pillion) I’m guessing it’s related. It’s not overloaded by any means, but there’s definitely more weight than I’ve ever ridden it with before, and I didn’t adjust the shock.

So I’m thinking this is a combination of weight + unadjusted suspension + a guy who isn’t used to sport bike geometry + dirty air. Any thoughts / pointers?

Even with that, which became much less concerning after 10 minutes of riding with it, I really loved every mile. They’re just solid performing bikes. Great in the corners and mile eaters (stock seat notwithstanding - ouch). I did 510 miles today over 9 hours with all kinds of road surfaces and that thing never missed a beat. And listening to the engine when the windshield was all the way up was fantastic. That mix of low piston thumping and gear whine - sublime.

Just a few pics. More as I continue. Leaving from east Knoxville tomorrow morning, headed west for a little under 300 miles.

JC

Loaded for the trip and aired up
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Skyline Drive
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Post-ride operations
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I'm glad you're sort of enjoying your ride.
I think your suggestions are spot on.
Plus what are the tyres like, worn, mismatched, badly out of shape.
Have you serviced the pre-load adjuster or tried more pre-load on the rear. There is much on here to advise on the pre-load adjuster service but that'll be for when you get home.
I think the 13 guys and dolls say 42 front and rear so try that and a little more pre-load.
The 13's do have a reputation for being a little dancey, try to ride with it and don't fight it. Relax the grip, sit back and enjoy the ride.
Hope it helps.
Upt'North.
 
New to the ST owners here but have read quite a bit of comments/ articles here. In researching about the high speed wobble that some if these ST1300 exhibit, you mentioned having windsheild at full height. A couple others had mentioned that this could possibly create an aerodymic pivot point that could upset the chassis. No proif or wind tunnel testing to back this up. Just throwing out an idea to consider.
 
Thanks all. Got comfortable with it yesterday and added a little preload this morning. I’ll get into the service manual when I get back.

you mentioned having windsheild at full height. A couple others had mentioned that this could possibly create an aerodymic pivot point that could upset the chassis.

That’s seems right to my experience yesterday.

Is that "petrol kiosk" near a store or is it like a mail box on a street corner?

It’s an air / vacuum kiosk at a gas station. It would be nice if there were just petrol stops like that.
 
Some 1300's "dance" a bit in dirty air. Other than suspension adjustments and proper tire inflation, you just get used to it. And, for tire inflation, change your valve stems to Ariete 90° stems at your first tire replacement.
 
I definitely noticed that dirty air behind a fast-moving big rig was not a happy place. Windscreen most of the way down, and a couple extra clicks on the preload adjuster, both noticeably improved things but the best thing to do is get past Mr. Semi and back into clean air with all due haste.
 
What a day 2! Almost made it to my buddy’s before this happened. Apparently the back road I chose was a poor choice.

Anyway, I was close enough that we got it on a trailer and tire shops are nearby. Hopefully something is in stock.

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What a day 2! Almost made it to my buddy’s before this happened. Apparently the back road I chose was a poor choice.

Anyway, I was close enough that we got it on a trailer and tire shops are nearby. Hopefully something is in stock.

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Order some Ariete valve stems now
 
At long last. To close this thing out I ended up not being able to source a tire. The local dealer ordered one and then failed to realize it never made it into the truck until the truck arrived... a week later. :censored:

So I rented a truck and hauled it back last night. Made it home safe and will unload it this afternoon with a buddy’s help (heavy bike + narrow ramp = no bueno). I’ll order a tire and try changing it in the garage. I’ve done it on a Harley, and guessing it’s not much different in this one. And since this forum is packed with good advice from those who have already done this I think it’ll work. Different valves are on the list of improvements. Also saw a rebate for Michelin’s so that’s an option.

While the trip ended in defeat, I had a couple days of great riding, didn’t get hurt and was able to see my family as planned (albeit longer than they may have appreciated).

Thanks for the advice!
 
Next time carry a patch kit with some gummy worms and a small compressor. Only run the compressor with the bike idling or running. You could deplete the battery otherwise.
 
I live west of Bolivar, maybe 35 miles. Going east on HWY 64 out of Bolivar is a good ride. What brand tire was that on the rear? That may have been the main cause of the crappy ride.
 
Next time check the RAN list - folks that will help - might save you some grief.
Next time carry a patch kit with some gummy worms and a small compressor.

Great advice here. I was lucky enough to get the flat within 20 miles of my buddy’s, so I didn’t go the to RAN. The fact that a dealer said they could, and then didn’t, source a tire was... let’s say frustrating. I did feel like an idiot without a plug and compressor. First flat in 15 years of riding... still learning lessons!

What brand tire was that on the rear? That may have been the main cause of the crappy ride.

Michelin’s in good shape. I don’t think it was that so much as what was mentioned above - that the ST1300 is “dancey” in bad air and I was unfamiliar with it. Other than highway speeds around big trucks, it was hardly noticeable and it felt planted in all other conditions (to include rain).
 
Bummer about the tire, but like you said, didn’t get hurt and you got to see the family. That’s still a success in my book!
 
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