Honda GN4 Conventional has Moly

dwalby said:
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If you're asking how do we know that other oils are moly free, its in Honda's product description. as far as how much moly is too much, I don't think any of us know. So, let the debate continue ad nauseum about something that none of us are qualified to speak about anyway.
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That’s good marketing but MoTDC has no bearing on clutch life. Unfortunately they are perpetuating the moly myth for financial gain, as do others.
 
rwthomas1 said:
Oil threads are bizarre.
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No kidding. I remember going to an air show or car show (this was 40 odd years ago) and some huckster was selling an oil additive. He had an old engine, he ran it for a few minutes, added his additive and then drained all the oil out by pulling the oil pan plug. The engine continued to run and he revved it up a number of times. Since this engine ran without oil, said lubricant was superfluous...and ipso facto oil threads are superfluous.
 
rwthomas1 said:
Oil threads are bizarre. They exist on aviation boards, diesel truck and car boards, gas vehicle boards, ATV boards, boat boards, etc. etc. Its really wild how much energy is expended in these discussions. I cannot recall, ever, any engine "exploding" or meeting some untoward fate from using an oil that meets the specification. Or is said to meet the specification. Or even just come close. Meanwhile the rest of the vehicle(s) has "returned to the earth" or degraded to junk long before the engines actually wear out. Probably should just go ride.....
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Yeah I wonder what the electric car forums and electric motorcycle are like:giggle-2x:
 
red one said:
Yeah I wonder what the electric car forums and electric motorcycle are like:giggle-2x:
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Well, there is likely some sort of final drive in an electric vehicle? CV axles, etc.? They probably argue the various merits of difference types of grease and final drive oil.....
 
SMSW said:
No kidding. I remember going to an air show or car show (this was 40 odd years ago) and some huckster was selling an oil additive. He had an old engine, he ran it for a few minutes, added his additive and then drained all the oil out by pulling the oil pan plug. The engine continued to run and he revved it up a number of times. Since this engine ran without oil, said lubricant was superfluous...and ipso facto oil threads are superfluous.
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Probably BG. That was their schtick when I was in the MC business. Adding BG, running it, draining it, promising they would pay for a rebuild if it seized, then running it.

Motorcyclists like to make things so complicated.
 
SMSW said:
Which electricity is best for your car?:rofl1:
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I'm thinking they will be able to debate the benefits of oxygen free copper cables. Maybe Monster Cable will branch out into the EV business.
 
Terry500 said:
My manual says "GN4 without Moly". (attached) Apparently Honda no longer markets such a product.
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It says GN4 or HP4 (without moly). This means that the GN4 is whatever formulation (with moly probably) and the HP4 is without moly. The brackets are to clarify the HP4 otherwise they would have added that after the GN4. At least this is my understanding and this is typically how technical docs are written.
 
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