The Saga of the IGOFAR/Shuey/Valker/Lee T ST 1300 - How can such a well kept bike be cursed?

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Age
65
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Colorado Springs
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2007 ST1300
2025 Miles
000600
Hello all!

I am the current custodian/proud owner of Igofar's former ST 1300. Beautiful bike, amazingly well kept, smooth as glass, and finally (today) equipped with new Battlax tires.

As many/most of you reading this know, Igofar put the first 102,000 miles on this one, and then did a complete nose to tail refresh that left it literally better than new. As the song says "smoother than a fresh jar of Skippy".

Sadly, shortly after, Larry had to hang it up for the size/weight of the ST, and the torch passed to Shuey.

Shuey did a bunch of tweaks to refine the bike for his style of riding - lots of energy invested and more than a little $$.

Sadly, about 2,000 miles later, Shuey also found that the mass of the ST just wasn't working for him anymore, and the torch passed to Valker.

My introduction to the story was in reading Valker's "Ode to the ST/Igofar" post, where he raved about the ride home to Texas on the ST, and all of the care given to the bike by the previous two owners (mostly Igofar). I wrote a note to Valker saying that if he ever decided to sell it, I wanted a chance to buy it. I had spent quite a lot of time and money "rescuing" my first ST1300 - Lazarus -- and I had more in it by then than it would have taken to have bought the 2007 directly from Igofar when he sold it. Alas, I was not in the community at that time. Valk sent a very kind note saying he would keep my contact information, but fat chance he would sell it anytime soon, because it was the smoothest thing he had ever ridden.

Sadly, about 2,000 miles and a surgery later, Valk also found that it was no longer comfortable to ride.

I conned a friend with an airplane into to flying me from COS to Valk's house in TX, got a quick check out, and practically flew back to Colorado.

Sadly, (change of pace), I discovered that the shenkos pretty much delaminated on the way home, and my piggy bank was empty.

Far more sadly, by the time I got the new tires bought, my knees were hurting so bad I was afraid to rock it off the center stand. and since I don't have a lift, I couldn't get down low enough to even work on it (not that it needs it).

Can a bike be cursed? Are the subsequent owners being taken down by the bike, or is the bike the unlucky one, going through so many broken old men?

On the bright side, with the help of compression wraps, my knees are waaaay better, (that's a whole nuther post) but sadly, my company is on hard times, and I may not be able to afford to keep the ST's.

I rode it home this morning with the new tires, in a slight rain. But it looks like decent riding days are going to be rare in Colorado for a while. At least I have gotten in some good rides on the 2003 in the last month or so.

Any thoughts or musings on all of this? Between rehabbing the '03 (which is nearly done) and buying the '07, I have about $10K in STs, and I have loved every minute of the rides, and most of the wrenching. I really don't want to give up riding again - it's the only thing, other than the dogs, that is pure joy .

Lee T (and yes, that is the Igofar in my new profile pic)
 
An absolutely phenomenal bike. My issues were most definitely NOT caused by this bike. I have 71 years, multiple surgeries (brain tumor, carpal tunnel wrists, two spinal fusions from almost falling down the stairs during that damn masking era when I couldn't see the stairs, and two heart attacks) and ALL of those things happened prior to my acquisition of "IGOFAR". My 1.5 million motorcycle miles since my licensing in 1968 may not bear much credence, but this bike is still the smoothest, best sorted motorcycle I've ever ridden. I had a set of Michelin Road 6s in my shop when Lee picked it up from me, but neither of us had a clue there would be tire problems on his trip.
 
Can a bike be cursed? Are the subsequent owners being taken down by the bike, or is the bike the unlucky one, going through so many broken old men?

Any thoughts or musings on all of this? Between rehabbing the '03 (which is nearly done) and buying the '07, I have about $10K in STs,
I don't believe in curses on inanimate objects, especially when so many of this bike's owners are senior citizens. Given how fragile many of us get as the years pile up we can almost predict that an 80 year old stumbling on the sidewalk and falling will suffer more damage than a 20 year old.

Musings???? I certainly hope that with all the ownership changes for this magnificent machine standard routine maintenance is being done.

I've found (the hard way) that restoring bikes tends to net one about half of the invested money. If you pay others to do some of the work (e.g. professional painting) the return is even less.

I'm glad your knees are responding to your care and I hope you stay healthy.
 
Getting older is doing in a lot of us seasoned riders and the bikes we have enjoyed for years.

I'll be 76 in a few months. The other day I went to put my beloved Honda CB1100 dlx on the centerstand (bought new and put 79,000 trouble free miles on), and wrenched my back. Had to have my wife come out and help me get it on the stand. So, I've decided it's too heavy for me now. It's a realization I've had coming for a while now. Lifting it off the sidestand, or pushing it out of the garage have become tedious. Too bad I love the bike. It's beautiful, a dream to ride, and the last of the air cooled I-4's any mfg is probably ever going to make.

My nephew said if I was ever interested in selling, to let him have first shot at it. I know I need to call him, but dang, I don't want to.
 
I think my age (71) is less of a factor than my surgeries have been. I can still mostly manhandle the ST and Valkyrie (mostly) but I do it carefully now. I've needed help picking up the bikes when I am not careful moving them around the garage/driveway. I recently bought one of these (https://www.motobikejack.com/ ) and keep it in a saddlebag when riding.
 
I think my age (71) is less of a factor than my surgeries have been. I can still mostly manhandle the ST and Valkyrie (mostly) but I do it carefully now. I've needed help picking up the bikes when I am not careful moving them around the garage/driveway. I recently bought one of these (https://www.motobikejack.com/ ) and keep it in a saddlebag when riding.
Many surgeries (not necessarily yours) come with age. How many preteens have had a couple of heart attacks?
 
An absolutely phenomenal bike. My issues were most definitely NOT caused by this bike. I have 71 years, multiple surgeries (brain tumor, carpal tunnel wrists, two spinal fusions from almost falling down the stairs during that damn masking era when I couldn't see the stairs, and two heart attacks) and ALL of those things happened prior to my acquisition of "IGOFAR". My 1.5 million motorcycle miles since my licensing in 1968 may not bear much credence, but this bike is still the smoothest, best sorted motorcycle I've ever ridden. I had a set of Michelin Road 6s in my shop when Lee picked it up from me, but neither of us had a clue there would be tire problems on his trip.
Just to clarify the tire issue, the tires still had enough tread for another 1,000 or so miles - no intent to imply that Valker did anything wrong!!!! It was after a short run to the shop to get the VIN verification that the front tire had a roughly goose egg sized bubble right in the center of the tread. Got to looking, and it had several smaller ones as well. What's even more odd is that when the tires cooled off, a day or two later the bubbles went away. I have never seen anything like that - it was bizarre.

And you are definitely right, smoothest ride ever. I get the Santana (Rob Lowe) song "Smooth" going in my head while riding. :-)
 
Lee, seriously if you still love riding, consider selling all the heavy stuff and pick up a light-weight ride. They are perfectly capable of any traveling you want to do ... Honda NC 750X, Kawasaki Versys 650, Suzuki V Strom 650 or the new 800, Yamaha FJ-07, BMW F 900. Your mind and body will thank you for it. The difference between an ST 1300 and any of those I listed is about 200 pounds.
 
I don't believe in curses on inanimate objects, especially when so many of this bike's owners are senior citizens. Given how fragile many of us get as the years pile up we can almost predict that an 80 year old stumbling on the sidewalk and falling will suffer more damage than a 20 year old.

Musings???? I certainly hope that with all the ownership changes for this magnificent machine standard routine maintenance is being done.

I've found (the hard way) that restoring bikes tends to net one about half of the invested money. If you pay others to do some of the work (e.g. professional painting) the return is even less.

I'm glad your knees are responding to your care and I hope you stay healthy.
To be fair, I was having a bit of a "pity party" when I wrote the original post.

Maintenance has been meticulously done, and will continue to be so. Now that my knees feel young again (for real, have to post about the miracle of compression wraps one day), I can get down on the floor and get back up again.

I do the vast majority of my maintenance myself - only way to know it was done right, correct? I don't have a balancer, so I do still have the tires done in the shop.

I have been in aviation for more than 40 years now, and intellectually I don't believe in inanimate objects being cursed, but I have seen a lot of weird stuff over the years.....aircraft that flew flawlessly for years, but became MX hogs when their pilot got orders, and other similar things. Any military aircraft with a "triple" tail number is always cursed -- 333, 555, 000 - none of them flew for s$&&. I don't believe it, but then, yeah, I kinda do.

Thanks for the good wishes!
 
We are all showing some age, people and the STs. Find a way to keep riding that is comfortable for your body and your bank account. Things change, don't sweat it, adjust and keep on keeping on. All we all can do.
Very well said, Good Sir!

I have a sign in my office that says "If you ain't dead, you ain't done!".
 
I have been in aviation for more than 40 years now, and intellectually I don't believe in inanimate objects being cursed, but I have seen a lot of weird stuff over the years.....aircraft that flew flawlessly for years, but became MX hogs when their pilot got orders, and other similar things. Any military aircraft with a "triple" tail number is always cursed -- 333, 555, 000 - none of them flew for s$&&. I don't believe it, but then, yeah, I kinda do.
Ah, the old Gremlins ... ;)
 
Just to clarify the tire issue, the tires still had enough tread for another 1,000 or so miles - no intent to imply that Valker did anything wrong!!!! It was after a short run to the shop to get the VIN verification that the front tire had a roughly goose egg sized bubble right in the center of the tread. Got to looking, and it had several smaller ones as well. What's even more odd is that when the tires cooled off, a day or two later the bubbles went away. I have never seen anything like that - it was bizarre.

And you are definitely right, smoothest ride ever. I get the Santana (Rob Lowe) song "Smooth" going in my head while riding. :-)
Never trust a tire showing a hint of delamination. You won’t be out much to replace because Shinko‘s are really cheap.
 
65 these days is not old, over 90 is. So far the oldest rider was 102, according to a Google search. How healthy you are is more important. Lee ,good to hear about the compression wraps healing your knees. Worked at a GM car dealership many years ago and the mechanic in the next Stall gave me a Foam pad, to kneel on, concrete is not a good surface for one's knees. Me at 65 have no knee problems. You want heavy,try pushing a 59 Cadillac Coupe DeVille onto a drive on hoist.
Only put my St on center stand when I'm working on it, it's a lot easier with the trunk, side cases,and rear seat bag off.
As far as a Vehicle being cursed, the big book says no, but I have found some to be the most cheaply , unreliable pieces of _______ made! A well maintained Vehicle will be there when you want it. Enjoy the Ride G
 
Getting older is doing in a lot of us seasoned riders and the bikes we have enjoyed for years.

I'll be 76 in a few months. The other day I went to put my beloved Honda CB1100 dlx on the centerstand (bought new and put 79,000 trouble free miles on), and wrenched my back. Had to have my wife come out and help me get it on the stand. So, I've decided it's too heavy for me now. It's a realization I've had coming for a while now. Lifting it off the sidestand, or pushing it out of the garage have become tedious. Too bad I love the bike. It's beautiful, a dream to ride, and the last of the air cooled I-4's any mfg is probably ever going to make.

My nephew said if I was ever interested in selling, to let him have first shot at it. I know I need to call him, but dang, I don't want to.
drain the fluids and put in in your house as a static art display. Then you can sit on it from time to time and bring back those memories. :biggrin:
 
Getting older is doing in a lot of us seasoned riders and the bikes we have enjoyed for years.

I'll be 76 in a few months. The other day I went to put my beloved Honda CB1100 dlx on the centerstand (bought new and put 79,000 trouble free miles on), and wrenched my back. Had to have my wife come out and help me get it on the stand. So, I've decided it's too heavy for me now. It's a realization I've had coming for a while now. Lifting it off the sidestand, or pushing it out of the garage have become tedious. Too bad I love the bike. It's beautiful, a dream to ride, and the last of the air cooled I-4's any mfg is probably ever going to make.

My nephew said if I was ever interested in selling, to let him have first shot at it. I know I need to call him, but dang, I don't want to.
Don't do it! Give it a rest and see how you feel in spring. It's always harder to do stuff and easier to hurt yourself in colder weather.
 
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