Artemis II

PPS: The newest 'black magic' to come into my house is an "induction cooktop." Stove cooking surface stays cold and only the iron based pan heats up. The cook surface magnets excite the iron in the pot/pan. Take away the pan and you can put your hand on the stove without getting burned! :oops:
Just don't try to cook on it with aluminum pots and pans ... ;)
 
Didn't intend to hijack the thread. Apologies.

Note to jdmccright . . . carrying a small magnet in my pocket when shopping yields positive results. :)

Shuey
 
The space program is fascinating. Whether or not it is worth the money spent on it is whole separate issue, and regardless of whether it is determined that is worth it or not does not diminish the fascination of it.

One of the side notes of the Artemis II mission that I found astounding was the reaction to the photo of the world that they sent back. According to a couple of newscasts that I saw there were endless discussions on multiple social media platforms where people expressed shocking surprise at how much of the world is covered with water. Apparently, before seeing this photo, they were not aware of this fact. Haven't any of these people ever seen a world map? A globe? Watched a news cast? Gone to grade school? Is this fact no longer common knowledge?
 
The space program is fascinating. Whether or not it is worth the money spent on it is whole separate issue, and regardless of whether it is determined that is worth it or not does not diminish the fascination of it.

One of the side notes of the Artemis II mission that I found astounding was the reaction to the photo of the world that they sent back. According to a couple of newscasts that I saw there were endless discussions on multiple social media platforms where people expressed shocking surprise at how much of the world is covered with water. Apparently, before seeing this photo, they were not aware of this fact. Haven't any of these people ever seen a world map? A globe? Watched a news cast? Gone to grade school? Is this fact no longer common knowledge?
Unfortunately, far too many school systems focus on current events to the exclusion of geography and history.
I was talking to a young man in college not long ago and mentioned I had visited the Little Bighorn the site of Custer's Last Stand on a ride.
He had no idea what that was so I told him - It was the battle where the 'cowboys' lost ... ;)
 
Haven't any of these people ever seen a world map? A globe? Watched a news cast? Gone to grade school? Is this fact no longer common knowledge?
there are people who think the Earth is flat, even though there were similar images of the planet from other Moon missions decades ago that proved otherwise.

I gave up on being surprised by people's ignorance and stupidity a long time ago, its just part of life. Unfortunately now the Internet allows it to be more widely advertised than in the past.
 
there are people who think the Earth is flat, even though there were similar images of the planet from other Moon missions decades ago that proved otherwise.

I gave up on being surprised by people's ignorance and stupidity a long time ago, its just part of life. Unfortunately now the Internet allows it to be more widely advertised than in the past - and to gather a following more quickly!
There, fixed it for you! ;)
Now you know there are some flat spots on the Earth - as well in some folks' heads ... :biggrin:
 
there are people who think the Earth is flat,

Yup, they have members all over the globe. 🌏

There was also this society here in Canada that poked fun of it by using it as their primary proof.

https://search.canbarchives.ca/flat-earth-society-of-canada

Administrative history​

The Flat Earth Society of Canada (FES) was organized at Fredericton, New Brunswick, on 8 November 1970 by Leo Ferrari, Raymond Fraser, and Alden Nowlan. They maintained that a prevailing problem of the new technological age was the willingness of people to accept theories "on blind faith and to reject the evidence of their own senses". To promote critical thinking, the society chose to dispute one thing that "scientific Western civilization" considers indisputable -- namely, that the earth is round.

The organization, therefore, set as its primary aims: "to combat the fallacious deification of the circle", "to restore man's confidence in the validity of his own perceptions", and "to spearhead man's escape from his metaphysical and geometrical prison". "The earth is flat; any fool can see that" was adopted as the society's principal motto. Leo Ferrari, a philosophy professor at St. Thomas University, was the society's long-serving president and primary promoter. Other members of the executive included poet-novelist Raymond Fraser, writer Alden Nowlan, writer-educator Alphonsus J. Pittman, and poet-novelist Gwendolyn MacEwen.

To boost membership and advance the cause of planoterrestialism, the executive issued tractates (two by Nowlan), published a newsletter "The Official Chronical" (later an official organ "The Official Organ"), and distributed promotional literature at public lectures and meetings of the Learned Societies of Canada. Ferrari and Nowlan also promoted the society's aims more widely through television, radio, and the public press. They wrote articles, gave newspaper interviews, and appeared on television and radio programmes such as "This Country in the Morning," "Spectroscope," "Take 30," "W5," and "Front Page Challenge".

The publication of William Johnson's article about the FES in Saturday Review of the Sciences (May 1973) resulted in an influx of requests for membership, primarily from the United States. The same year the name of the organization was simplified to The Flat Earth Society to reflect its growing international appeal. Generally planoterrestrialists were drawn from among the well-educated -- computer scientists, university administrators, academics, lawyers, physicians, scientists, poets, and writers. They included such well-known figures as writer Farley Mowatt, television personality Paul Soles, American novelist Lawrence Block, and poet Elizabeth Brewster.

Associate membership was granted to persons "of integrity" who subscribed to the society's aims and submitted an essay giving their reasons for believing the earth was flat. After three years, associate members-in-good-standing were granted full membership status. In 1974, the society could boast approximately 100 members in Canada, the United States, and Europe. Planoterrestrialists waged an intellectual, often humorous, "battle" against the "globularist heresy" for over a decade before fading from view in the mid-1980s.
 
there are people who think the Earth is flat, even though there were similar images of the planet from other Moon missions decades ago that proved otherwise.

I gave up on being surprised by people's ignorance and stupidity a long time ago, its just part of life. Unfortunately now the Internet allows it to be more widely advertised than in the past.
While there probably are some idiots that think this, most flat earthers are trolling. Which is just as inexplicable to me.
 
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

That's not just some cracker barrel-checkers rhetoric or old saw. It's being proven daily. What is not taught as history in History classes these days is responsible for a lot of younger generations saying — "Wait what?!" It's not fair to blame their general ignorance on them if they can't remember what they weren't taught.

The internet. Much maligned it's frequently disparaged in it's entirety for being a vehicle used to spread hate and discontent and unsupported bias. However it's also a great source of verifiable fact(s). That they're ignored out of hand is not the fault of the internet.

That’s the good thing about science: It’s true whether or not you believe in it.
 
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