$1050 (10 hours) to replace clutch slave cylinder? True?

Gueroestrella

Gueroestrella

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Costa Mesa CA
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2004 ST1300 Police
Hi,

I found the post here for how to replace the Slave Master Cylinder on the ST 1300 (2006). According to the shop near my house, it's going to take them 10 hours and they want $105 per hour. Does that sound right to those of you who have done it? Thank you!!
 
That sounds like the book time (Honda say to remove the engine...) but you can do it without. Check out the fine articles...
 
Yes, that is right...for a dealership. How can they afford a boat payment if they charge for the time it actually takes?

Once upon a time, a mechanic told me that any good mechanic can halve the book time for a repair. If he could not, he would not hang on to his job for very long.
 
Gueroestrella said:
Hi,

I found the post here for how to replace the Slave Master Cylinder on the ST 1300 (2006). According to the shop near my house, it's going to take them 10 hours and they want $105 per hour. Does that sound right to those of you who have done it? Thank you!!
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Article [13] - ST1300 - Clutch Slave Cylinder Replacement | ST1300 Articles

Hi All: OK, well, it looks like I am one of the lucky ducks who has a problem with the clutch slave cylinder (we'll refer to it as the CSC) on my 2007 ST1300. The symptoms of a leaking or failed clutch slave cylinder are: little or no resistance on the clutch lever (only if the fluid level is...
www.st-owners.com www.st-owners.com
 
Several forum members have created threads on their DIY R & R of the clutch slave cylinder without dropping the engine out of the frame which the service manual shows. I helped an owner do the prep work to repair his though he ultimately decided to replace the entire bike. The 10 hours doesn’t sound out of line for shop labor to complete the procedure per Honda's manual though a tech experienced in the job probably could and would reduce that.
 
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Gueroestrella said:
Hi,

I found the post here for how to replace the Slave Master Cylinder on the ST 1300 (2006). According to the shop near my house, it's going to take them 10 hours and they want $105 per hour. Does that sound right to those of you who have done it? Thank you!!
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Use the 'Search' button above to see the efforts of other members.
Think there is also a Youtube video.
 
Contact me, it takes me about 2-3 hours from start to finish. This includes draining the oil, removing the speed sensor switch, removing the CSC, removing the old gasket and oil seal, flushing and bleeding the system, and putting it all back together etc.
Of course I would probably find more stuff that would need to be addressed in working on a used STP bike.
Standing by the white courtesy phone.
 
Gueroestrella said:
Hi,

I found the post here for how to replace the Slave Master Cylinder on the ST 1300 (2006). According to the shop near my house, it's going to take them 10 hours and they want $105 per hour. Does that sound right to those of you who have done it? Thank you!!
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The local Honda shop near me quotes $2400 to do the job. I’ve taken a lot of business from them by cutting their price quote by more than half etc.
I have 14 damaged units in a bucket, by my toolbox, that I’ve done in the past six months.
Lots of folks have no clue how bad their clutch system is until it’s too late.
 
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I've done clutch system repairs on several 1100s, from new clutch springs to lever pushrod and everything in between. It's all easily accessible. Don't even need to drain the oil to do the springs. Yet another reason to stay with the 11. :D
 
Just did mine with much appreciated help from @Igofar; no engine removal. Probably the longest time spent was waiting for swivel sockets to arrive and scraping the old gasket material. Will write up on my thread but appears the replacement was the cause of me being stranded about a month ago. Total work time was right around the hours estimate he listed (I didn't remove the speed sensor but did replace oil/filter.) Find/buy the right tools but you can do it without a lift and with help from someone with small hands. Just be patient, it's not easy access but can be done.
 
Gueroestrella said:
Hi,

I found the post here for how to replace the Slave Master Cylinder on the ST 1300 (2006). According to the shop near my house, it's going to take them 10 hours and they want $105 per hour. Does that sound right to those of you who have done it? Thank you!!
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I did this myself. about 2 hours job on first time. Now I knew what to do it should be less then 2hours. $105 that is much better then $130/h shop charge.
 
George said:
I've done clutch system repairs on several 1100s, from new clutch springs to lever pushrod and everything in between. It's all easily accessible. Don't even need to drain the oil to do the springs. Yet another reason to stay with the 11. :D
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Yes, but the ST1300 clutch is entirely different from that on the ST1100 and in any event, he is talking about the slave cylinder - which is also completely different - and not the clutch itself.
 
My new best time this morning :run1:
Removed/Replaced a clutch slave cylinder in 45 minutes.
I had my tools and new replacement parts laid out on my service cart.
Removed 5 bolts and 1 clip on lower cowling
Marked shifter shaft with sharpie, removed one bolt and let it hang
Removed 2 bolts from speed sensor switch, pulled it out and let it drain.
Removed 1 bolt from metal band that holds hoses to back of engine and removed it out of the way.
Removed the oil filter, and let it drain.
Took my 15 inch Matco flex head ratchet wrench and removed the oil bolt/washers
Removed the 3 8mm head bolts with a 1/4 inch Snap On ratchet and standard length socket.
Pulled the damaged CSC out, along with the 2 guide dowels.
Wiped everything clean.
Got Lucky and had the gasket come off in one piece for a change :wave1:
Removed oil seal with sheet metal screw and long nose pliers, and replaced seal.
Replaced new guide dowels
Installed new CSC assembly (complete)
Inserted a 3/4 inch by 1/2 inch strip of wood, edgewise, between the shaft assembly, and the CSC cover, which holds it perfectly in place, and gives you room to work and see things etc.
Used a 1/4 inch drive 8mm swivel socket and a 14 inch extension to replace the 3 bolts from the rear (2 from the right side, 1 from the left side)
Torqued the fasteners down with the 1/4 inch drive ratchet and standard length socket.
Replaced the Oil bolt/washers
Installed new Oil filter, speed sensor (with new O-ring), the retaining band for the hoses, and shifter linkage etc.
Replaced lower cowl
Replaced the clutch fluid, pulled it through the system with a mityvac, then bled the system with my motion pro check valve, etc.
After doing about a dozen of these lately, they are getting easier....its usually that damn gasket, and scraping I hate :well1:
Hint: this job is easier if the bike is on a table lift, and you have a K&L center jack under the motor supporting the bike, so you can move the center stand around while you work.
;)
:WCP1:
 
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