Car Tire(s).
Cornering or Turning (I searched no results!?)
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Echo in here.
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CT = Car Tire
LOL = Look Out Law!
BTW = Beware of The Woman
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Anyone help me out here? ;-)
Kevin_56
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Al - there have been tank slappers reported with motorcycle tires. So I should not run them either?
If the OP understands there are risks involved with any tire you put on your bike, the only way to find out if it is for you, try it.
yes kevin don't put tires on your bike there is less rolling resistance ............. someone asked the question , the answer is an opinion (ref IMO) based on a older post , his described riding style and information. Yes I failed to reference the " Pan Weave" So next time someone asks a question the universal answer should be "You won't know till you try it"
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The OP asked for those riding dark side, what are your experiences (not you personally). but you have none, I do. I had no problem carving corners, no problem with grip while leaned over, no problem going straight, no problem in rain. Over all a good warm fuzzy. I was also running a rear tire on the front. Yes it took more pressure on the bars to initiate a turn, but unless you switched bikes with one on motorcycle tires, you really did not notice that extra initial input. Bottom line IMO is to really know, you have to do it yourself.
In another group I belong to there are a number of folks in the UK running C/T. Not sure how/what are the legalities and what the solutions, but it is being done.
I read the post the same way Kevin, just momentarily held off on saying something.
If 1 person tries something and it presents a problem, but they can't/don't prove the problem is existing beause of one modification and without baselines then it is a an anomly not a statement of fact.
Facts:
Plenty of folks go north of 100 on car tire without a wobble.
Wobble can occur for a multitiude of reasons, regardless or because of tire.
Lots of things are being done, here in the UK. For example, I used to run a sportsbike with an illegally loud exhaust (loud pipes save... etc), and an equally illegally loud horn setup (and it was also two-tone, which is also illegal in itself).
I don't doubt others are running C/T in the UK, on a casual glance, no-one would know. Lots of sympathetic MOT stations exist that would simply choose not to look during the annual inspection (lots take the view of "well, the document in front of me doesn't say it's wrong, so it must be OK, and their laws are different to the on-the-road laws).
But where I live, LEO are very keen on stopping bikes (though this has relaxed a bit in the last 10 or so years), and acutely trained in what to look for. C/T simply isn't worth it for me personally, though I don't begrudge anyone that does.
yes , I agree and if I had a 1300 I would probably put a CT on it. It was also stated he is a knee dragger. When he said that I thought, again IMO, he would feel more comfortable pushing the limits as it sounds like he does, with a MC tire. But you can't make a major change with out at least thinking about unintended consequences.
Had a car tire on a VTX 1300, went through the Tail of the Dragon multiple times scraping pegs even. Would consider it on this bike as it will be my long distance hwy bike most of the time.
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To answer the second part of the OP question:
Yes, there have been some issues. However, no more so than I would expect on any tires. Every now and then... you pick something up from the road and you get a flat. It's life. I know others have, but I wouldn't used them on high speed runs or on a track. I would be tempted to do IBA rides with them (definately).
However, I wouldn't use the tread depth as an indicator for how long you should keep the CT on the bike (IMO). Very much dependent on tire used, construction technique, and varying materials different manufacturers claim is "better". The early blow out Al had in this latest IBR looked as though the side blew out... but I really don't know the whole story, what kind of tire, pressure used, how old, etc, etc. Could be just as likely it was "after the fact" damage once he lost pressure.
I would imagine the tip in going into a corner would not be a whole lot different than when your dual compound GT tires square off towards the end of their life. (But... I don't like that either...)
Yes, there have been some issues. However, no more so than I would expect on any tires. Every now and then... you pick something up from the road and you get a flat. It's life. I know others have, but I wouldn't used them on high speed runs or on a track. I would be tempted to do IBA rides with them (definately).
However, I wouldn't use the tread depth as an indicator for how long you should keep the CT on the bike (IMO). Very much dependent on tire used, construction technique, and varying materials different manufacturers claim is "better". The early blow out Al had in this latest IBR looked as though the side blew out... but I really don't know the whole story, what kind of tire, pressure used, how old, etc, etc. Could be just as likely it was "after the fact" damage once he lost pressure.
I would imagine the tip in going into a corner would not be a whole lot different than when your dual compound GT tires square off towards the end of their life. (But... I don't like that either...)
I rode with The Dan at Spearfish. He's a Double Darkside rider. He didn't have any issues riding twisty roads at very fast speeds.
Chris
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Kevin_56
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Did the same thing 2 years ago with Dan and Guy who is also running dark. It was a quick tour of the Black Hills.