Engine Overheat Issues

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New Mexico
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2007 ST1300
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Howdy from SE, NM.
Been following these super helpful threads since buying my ‘07 1300PA last year. Much respect. Little bit of trepidation being my first post. Been a particular enjoyment to watch seasoned men school fools…respectfully y’all can be pretty salty. Makes me smile (and laugh sometimes) at said “schooling” & look forward to your input. 🙂

For the record: Understand significant overheating issues have already been addressed over the decades on this forum and I hate to ask something already answered, but for whatever reason, thread links on Google haven’t been working in the past month or 2 (there’s a site error every time I try and pull them up!!?). This evening, I tried the site search engine, to no avail. In the past, I was able to access a lot of information here on this particular topic (thank you, Igofar & several others)… Perhaps someone can send a link, or copy/paste relevant previous answers???
Thanks.

My Issue:
Temp gauge reaches max/flashing anytime after riding about 10 minutes between 20-60mph.
Idling = temp @ 3 bars.
65mph+ = temp @ 5 bars
Intop and go traffic (in town), temp stays between 3-5 bars.

Notes: No leaks from square or round holes. Don’t seem to loose fluid while riding, but there could be a tiny seep up in the V, as I’ve not personally removed throttle-body to carefully inspect each connection. Coolant reserve tank will eventually “overfill”, but this takes a good half hour of riding (sharing for whatever it’s worth. At one point, I wondered if the bike was actually overheating, or if something was wrong with the temp sensor). Believe coolant flow is “ present” - strong coolant movement visible from removed radiator cap, when blipping the throttle, after warming engine (about three minutes of idle). FYI: A little bit of crystallization was visible and removed off the inside of thermostat cover.

Repairs/Troubleshooting so far:
- OEM Thermostat replacement
- OEM Radiator cap replacement
- Trimmed cracked/air-leaking overflow hose end (connected to radiator cap side)
- Flushed, soaked (vinegar & water), & tested radiator with water
- Purchased and installed used radiator (in case old one was clogged/ruined) - this seemed to help, but very little
- Drained coolant (including removing 10mm bolt on engine) and replaced with HP Honda Pro Type 2 (blue coolant) - this also seemed to help, but again, little

Not including here how many times the cooling system was drained, checking the initial old thermostat (looked at some of Igofar’s old t-stat pics for reference), replaced and tested parts, replaced and tested parts… 🙃
I know the ST is a great reliable bike, but this one problem is beyond me, and kicken my chicken.

Thanks.
Euell
 
Thanks! Forgot that bit:
Yes, Sir. Both fans do kick on strong & pull air in the correct direction. When idling, they will kick on and off.

Was considering replacing the thermostat again just in case. 🤷‍♂️
 
Thanks! Forgot that bit:
Yes, Sir. Both fans do kick on strong & pull air in the correct direction. When idling, they will kick on and off.

Was considering replacing the thermostat again just in case. 🤷‍♂️
If it's stuck open, that's easy to see.. I can't remember if you can install it backwards...
 
Possible water pump impeller problem. I have seen impellers come loose from the shafts and work intermittently.
 
I was thinking impeller but couldn’t figure how it would fail.
Given bdalameda’s knowledge it all makes sense.

At idle it could flow enough to keep the motor cool because it’s not slipping or slipping less.

If the thermostat was stuck open the bike would run two or three bars at speed.

If it was stuck closed it would overheat at idle and at speed.
 
Question….does the bike have overheating symptoms?
Heat? Noise, etc.
Usually when the temp gauge hits five bars, or dances around between three and five bars, while riding, it turned out to be an electrical short, and was not over heating at all.
And being a decommissioned police bike, your wiring may be shorting out somewhere.
Do you have an IR heat gun where you could verify temps?
 
Possible water pump impeller problem. I have seen impellers come loose from the shafts and work intermittently.
Interesting. I’ve only seen them as one piece on this bike. Have you been able to determine the ST specificallyhas this issue also?
 
Interesting. I’ve only seen them as one piece on this bike. Have you been able to determine the ST specificallyhas this issue also?
I can't say for sure regarding the ST having this issue, I have seen this happen on other makes/ models. I have heard of ST's having issues with bad impellers though, missing pieces etc. usually caused by corrosion/ fatigue.
 
Question….does the bike have overheating symptoms?
Heat? Noise, etc.
Usually when the temp gauge hits five bars, or dances around between three and five bars, while riding, it turned out to be an electrical short, and was not over heating at all.
And being a decommissioned police bike, your wiring may be shorting out somewhere.
Do you have an IR heat gun where you could verify temps?
Fantastic question: I honestly don’t exactly know what to look for… bike doesn’t seem to be making any strange noises or running extra hot. No funny smells or ticking sounds when you turn the bike off (from metal/pipes getting really hot and cooling)

It’s been quite a while since I took an IR gun to it (was prior to replacing radiator and coolant), but I measured up to 230 at the top front right side of the radiator (bottom was much cooler). I’d like to get fresh temperatures when I get back home this evening if that’s fine.

Makes sense. (For whatever it’s worth, I have looked at the temperature sensor on the back of the thermostat housing…I’ve not chased wires any further than that)
 
I can't say for sure regarding the ST having this issue, I have seen this happen on other makes/ models. I have heard of ST's having issues with bad impellers though, missing pieces etc. usually caused by corrosion/ fatigue.
OK. Thank you!
 
I was thinking impeller but couldn’t figure how it would fail.
Given bdalameda’s knowledge it all makes sense.

At idle it could flow enough to keep the motor cool because it’s not slipping or slipping less.

If the thermostat was stuck open the bike would run two or three bars at speed.

If it was stuck closed it would overheat at idle and at speed.
I’ve thought the same thing, but hopefully there is a way to have hard evidence before borrowing someone’s shop and tearing the thing apart lol
 
After reading through all this again. You said the radiator fans do come on and cycle on and off. If that is so it appears that your temperature is being controlled. As Igofar stated this could simply be a temperature gauge or sensor (sending unit) issue. Check your connections on the sensor and wiring etc. The fans use a separate sensor from the gauge sending unit.
 
The fans use a separate sensor from the gauge sending unit.
Where is this gauge sending unit? It would probably be easier to test this than pull the front of the motor apart to look at the water pump impeller. IIRC, only one person (@dduelin? or @SupraSabre recently posted this) has reported seeing a finless impeller that had been eaten by corrosion. The OP could pull the sending unit, set up an electric hot plate near the bike w/ a pot of water and dunk said unit in hot water while watching the bar gauge on the bike.

This problem sounds too regular to me to be an electrical connector issue.
 
Where is this gauge sending unit? It would probably be easier to test this than pull the front of the motor apart to look at the water pump impeller. IIRC, only one person (@dduelin? or @SupraSabre recently posted this) has reported seeing a finless impeller that had been eaten by corrosion. The OP could pull the sending unit, set up an electric hot plate near the bike w/ a pot of water and dunk said unit in hot water while watching the bar gauge on the bike.

This problem sounds too regular to me to be an electrical connector issue.

Are you referring to that ST1300P front cover I pulled off. It was pretty messed up!

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You couldn't see the corrosion, until you pulled it apart. The waterpump was leaking out of the round hole, like crazy.
 
After reading through all this again. You said the radiator fans do come on and cycle on and off. If that is so it appears that your temperature is being controlled. As Igofar stated this could simply be a temperature gauge or sensor (sending unit) issue. Check your connections on the sensor and wiring etc. The fans use a separate sensor from the gauge sending unit.
Specifically, fans cycle only at idle (at least that I’m aware of). Whenever I check after coming to a stop during a ride, they’re running.
Also, as pointed out, you may have put the t-stat in upside down?
The wiggly vent thing needs to be at 12 o’clock.
Yes, Sir. Did mount it right side up!
 
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