Fuel pump question...

Jim C-G

Jim C-G

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Cow Head, Newfoundland, Canada
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ST1300A '05
I'm making a new list of things to carry on the road next year. I have replaced my fuel pump (the whole damned assembly $$$) in 2010 and decided I want to carry a new pump with me as the bike ages.
I know the pump by itself is an HFP-382 but I am finding it with all sorts of letters after the number. i.e. S1, Y1, SQ, HY, DS...
Is there really any difference in the pumps? The photos all look like the same pump.
 
With over 370,000 miles on five different ST1300s...One having 174.3K on it before selling it.. I have had one fuel pump go out on me. And that was my 2010 with about 80K miles on it.

They don't go out that often, that I wouldn't worry about carrying one with me on long trips!
 
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Jim C-G said:
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I know the pump by itself is an HFP-382 but I am finding it with all sorts of letters after the number. i.e. S1, Y1, SQ, HY, DS...
Is there really any difference in the pumps? The photos all look like the same pump.
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If I remember right the fuel pump is compatible with a Honda car model (Civic?). Check if that is true and then just make a note of the model then it should be available at any auto parts store or Honda car dealer.
 
Gerhard said:
If I remember right the fuel pump is compatible with a Honda car model (Civic?). Check if that is true and then just make a note of the model then it should be available at any auto parts store or Honda car dealer.
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Yep. I changed out my original with one from the Civic just for peace of mind. 2 years, 4 week long rides and not a problem.
 
For my 2010, I bought a "cheapy" (about $15) and it has been running fine. I took a extra fuel pump assembly, replacing the fuel pump and replaced the gasket & fuel filter while I was at it.

I then bought a second fuel pump (I need it for that bike I'm picking up in a couple of weeks, to see if I can get it running)

eBay Fuel Pump

I'll take the 2010's original fuel pump assembly and replace the fuel filter pump.
 
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@SupraSabre It's my intention to order in a new gasket (did not do that when I did the first change) and a fuel filter and have the old assembly ready to go if I need it or someone touring through needs one. One of the problems with being in a relatively isolated spot, things can be difficult to come by. Example, my local Honda dealer did not have brake pads for the ST (OEM or aftermarket) but could have then in - in 3 weeks! Another problem is some of the suppliers on Ebay or Amazon do not ship to Canada so one has to plan ahead. Slowly building up stock in parts. New pump on way and I'll not attach it to the assemble yet... just in case I want to take it on the road. $25 is a cheap investment if it saves 2 weeks of waiting for a part in the boonies.
 
Bush said:
Is the Civic pump identical? What year Civic are you talking about? Thanks.
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I'm getting old and my memory doesn't go back 2 years. :biggrin: I found the info here on the board. It was identical except for the metal mesh at the bottom of the pickup was larger (nothing some tin snips couldn't solve) and that plastic mesh whatever-it-is thing was a bit different so I cleaned and reused the original. I think I paid about $23 for the pump. I might have the box on a shelf, when I get home I'll check.
 
Whooshka said:
I'm getting old and my memory doesn't go back 2 years. :biggrin: I found the info here on the board. It was identical except for the metal mesh at the bottom of the pickup was larger (nothing some tin snips couldn't solve) and that plastic mesh whatever-it-is thing was a bit different so I cleaned and reused the original. I think I paid about $23 for the pump. I might have the box on a shelf, when I get home I'll check.
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You can buy parts for the fuel pump assembly (From Honda Fuel Pump Parts ) to replace most of it. What burns me up though, Honda doesn't make the fuel pump nor the strainer/mesh available (WHY NOT? :think1: ) Note: not that I would want to spend the money, that Honda would want for a pump! o_O

Having "extra" parts on hand, is a no-brainer. One reason I have what I have, on hand...I don't want some minor part, stopping me from riding!

When I rode the Mid-80's VF700/V45/V65 Sabres, I found in the latter years (1999-07 when I sold the last one), trying to find parts was a real PIA. Now that I have been riding ST1300s for almost 14 years, I don't want to scramble to find parts. When I have seen parts cheap enough on eBay, I picked them up. Starters, Alternators, screws, fasteners, windscreen mechanisms (broken/fixable), and a host of other parts.

So, no I have nothing against getting extra parts! In fact, if you plan on keeping your bike for a long while, you're smart to do just that!
 
Whenever I buy a bike, I accumulate likely to need parts just in case....gaskets, seals, bulbs, tuneup parts, repair kits, filters, fuses, non-hardware store fasteners and hoses, and the like. Have replacement fuel pumps for both bikes. This way, I'm likely to have needed repair parts whenever I need or want to work on the bike. Yes, it all takes up lots of room and No, I never need all the spares.
 
etalors said:
Is the fuel pump problem that bad that folks have to carry a spare on long rides?
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It depends on your ride. If you are pleasure riding the American west on a two week ride with no real schedule, then no. On the other hand if you're riding in the IBR up a mountain in Colorado in the dark and have to be in Sacramento in under 24 hours, well then yes you are going to wish you had a spare pump on board. And I know of at least two riders who have been in this situation in the past three IBRs. YMMV
 
etalors said:
Is the fuel pump problem that bad that folks have to carry a spare on long rides?
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Probably not but I did get caught on the road when mine went out. Small and compact the new pump I carry is not just for me but if anyone else has a problem then I can help out.
 
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