Has anyone tried the Michelin Commander tire 200/55 SR17 on ST1300 Rear ?
Has anyone tried the Michelin Commander rear 200/55 SR17 on ST1300 ?
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Shawn K
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I've not tried it, but based on the reduced swingarm clearance after going from a 170-series to a 180, I'd be doubtful that a 200 would even fit.
Not to mention, a 200-series tire is typically designed for a wider rim than the ST has.
Not to mention, a 200-series tire is typically designed for a wider rim than the ST has.
I used a 190/60 on the rear of my ST1100, now have a 180/60.. have no problems at all... really liked the look of the 190 on the rear
+1. This.
I also agree with @Shawn K 's thoughts.
The compelling question is ... "why do you want to fit a tire that's not designed for the ST"?
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Maybe I missed something? Is this a [Darkside] car tire? If it's a motorcycle tire, I'd be shocked to hear of a 64k mileage claim. Guess I need to investigate.
OMG! You posted your license plate (I assume you have read the contemporaneous thread on why people cover their license plates)That would be the 64,000 mile question for the win!
Because it's there....
I run a 180/55 on the rear,,, and for me, that is as far as I want to push it,, based on the rim width. cheers,, CAt'
Mileage! The Commander II gives best mileage of any tire and I've tried them all. Used it exclusively on my last 1100. It does come in the correct size, tho. If I had a 1300, I would run dark side like 970Mike.
Then the question is why would you exceed the speed limit posted on a curved road ? The road is designed for that speed!! That doesn't make much sense. You can't put Rotella Diesel oil in an ST motor, it calls for Honda oil. You will break all the rule except what tire is designed for the bike. First of all the tire was not designed for the st. Honda engineers made a compromise, a 19 in front wheel would on the slabs but a 17 in would be great for canyon carving. So they split the difference and went with the 18in. Different brands of tires are designed differently and will handle differently in certain situations. Lots of rider use the Michelin Commander on their ST and that tire is made for a cruiser, "A NEW STANDARD IN CRUISER TIRE LONGEVITY " (from mitchelins own description). Wow that tire should not be on a ST it's a cruiser tire. Since WWII and before motorcycles have been modified, chopped, extended and customized to the owners liking. There are darksiders that claim they can brake better, turn just as well and even have better traction in the rain. I have used many different tires, sizes and brands and not once have I felt unsafe. Oh by the way I'm using a Bridgestone H50 on both front and rear. There is over 9,000 mile on then and they look as if they can go another 9k.
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I thought about trying a Commander motorcycle tire on my ST1300 at my last tire change but didn't see any in the size my bike was asking for. I know I can use a slightly different size, so I'll have another look next time. I like longevity in a tire. No offense, but a "car tire" is not going on my bike. 
One little story I wanted to pass along with hesitation. This scares me a little knowing that a co worker tried it and believes it to be OK.. You know where it says "max air pressure" on the tires? He told me he a slight wobble on the highway and the only way to get rid of it was to inflate his tire to that max pressure value??? I explained that it wasn't a suggested pressure setting , but in fact a maximum allowable pressure before a possible catastrophic failure occurred . Also, the air pressure that you set while cold, will rise at least a few pounds in the hot weather and with fast riding.I hope nothing happens to him.
One little story I wanted to pass along with hesitation. This scares me a little knowing that a co worker tried it and believes it to be OK.. You know where it says "max air pressure" on the tires? He told me he a slight wobble on the highway and the only way to get rid of it was to inflate his tire to that max pressure value??? I explained that it wasn't a suggested pressure setting , but in fact a maximum allowable pressure before a possible catastrophic failure occurred . Also, the air pressure that you set while cold, will rise at least a few pounds in the hot weather and with fast riding.I hope nothing happens to him.
Shawn K
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It's not quite that life-and-death.
That pressure measurement is actually reflecting the maximum load rating of that tire at "X" psi cold (meaning ambient, non-ridden tire temperature). It's by no means a reflection of the maximum structural integrity of the tire (i.e. one pound over and the tire explodes).
There's no corporate attorney in the world who would advise a company to rate their tires that close to destruction. They'd be tied up in wrongful death lawsuits until Gabriel's horn blows.
What's the pressure rating for a Michelin PR4GT rear tire on an ST1300? 42 psi. What does Honda recommend? 42 psi. What do I and many others run their tires at? 42 psi.
Your friend can run his tire at the maximum rated pressure all day with no reasonable fear of catastrophic failure. I've seen motorcycle tires that took 80 psi just to seat the bead. If they were in danger of catastrophic failure at their rated load pressure, there'd be dead/injured tire changers all over the country.
OEM is 36/42 max PSI for my ST11 ABSII. I’ve been running 42/42 for 135k miles. Zero problems.
darksiders will comment but lowering the pressure seems to do the trick 30-35 ??I also read the pan weave happens over 100 mph with the car tire but every case is different.I thought about trying a Commander motorcycle tire on my ST1300 at my last tire change but didn't see any in the size my bike was asking for. I know I can use a slightly different size, so I'll have another look next time. I like longevity in a tire. No offense, but a "car tire" is not going on my bike.
One little story I wanted to pass along with hesitation. This scares me a little knowing that a co worker tried it and believes it to be OK.. You know where it says "max air pressure" on the tires? He told me he a slight wobble on the highway and the only way to get rid of it was to inflate his tire to that max pressure value??? I explained that it wasn't a suggested pressure setting , but in fact a maximum allowable pressure before a possible catastrophic failure occurred . Also, the air pressure that you set while cold, will rise at least a few pounds in the hot weather and with fast riding.I hope nothing happens to him.
This is the first I've read about that tire ... so, are you stating "all those ST riders" are running the 200-55 tire? I've researched - that's the "closest" size available to the OEM size of 170-60.
I answered this "The compelling question is ... "why do you want to fit a tire that's not designed for the ST"? did you look at a 180/60?
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Maybe I'm at the rwong sites ... I've checked RevZilla and BikeBandit ... i don't see a 180-60-17
I guess it doesn't matter at this time - I just installed a BT020F : ) Just thinking of the future ...
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" The compelling question is ... "why do you want to fit a tire that's not designed for the ST"? "
I don't care to change tires every 7 or 8 thousand miles - that would be 3 changes a year for me. I get over 20K out of the Michelin Commander on my ST1100 and would like to get something similar for my st1300 - so far it seems the best high mileage option for the back tire on a ST1300 is a car tire and a BT45 rear tire on the front - several members here have done that and I've rode with a few and from what I see they are very happy with the Car Tire or they would not be running them. All the guys I've seen running car tires are high mileage - experienced riders and also on the fast side so that may be the route I go .
I am asking if anyone has found a Michelin Commander that they were able to fit on their ST1300 as an option other than going to the Car Tire.
I don't care to change tires every 7 or 8 thousand miles - that would be 3 changes a year for me. I get over 20K out of the Michelin Commander on my ST1100 and would like to get something similar for my st1300 - so far it seems the best high mileage option for the back tire on a ST1300 is a car tire and a BT45 rear tire on the front - several members here have done that and I've rode with a few and from what I see they are very happy with the Car Tire or they would not be running them. All the guys I've seen running car tires are high mileage - experienced riders and also on the fast side so that may be the route I go .
I am asking if anyone has found a Michelin Commander that they were able to fit on their ST1300 as an option other than going to the Car Tire.
look at https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/tires-and-wheels/bridgestone-battlecruise-h50-rear-p it states Compares to: Dunlop American Elite, Michelin Commander II, Pirelli Night Dragon, Metzeler ME880/888. , ... wait till the rebate comes around and its reasonably priced. Commanders don't come in st1300 sizes.. Tires to fit dinosaurs are getting harder to find. Use this link to compare sizes https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=120-70r18-110-80r18