HELP!!! Givi Topbox Mounting Plate Problem

[Big Al]

Hi All,
I have a Givi V46 Topbox. The mountong plate that attaches to the ST is broken where the bolts are inserted. I didn't like the way the stock one was designed. It only had 2 bolts that allowed the box to wiggle a little, which probably was the reason why it broke in the first place.

The plate that the actual topbox attaches to is fine. All I need is a replacement for the lower plate, or an equivilant aftermarket mount.

Can anyone help me?
I need something ASAP in time for CTSTOC

Thanks
Alan

 

[chevypc]

Alan:
I have an E215 Givi mounting plate new in the box. I believe it is the plate for your box. It should fit all MonoKey Givi top boxes. I borrowed an E52 box for my vacation last week and decided to buy the plate to use. I had ordered a new Honda top box that didn't get delivered until yesterday. My wife would not ride if I didn't have a back rest. I just paid $84.20 for it. I would be willing to sell it for $65.00 I also live near Worcester, MA. I see that you live in Salem, MA. I could meet you half way after work tomorrow if this would help you out.

Phil

 

[ThreeWheels]

You should be able to get some simple steel pieces at home depot or a hardware store. Looks like about 1 inch wide by about 6" long, but you have the piece so you have the exact measurements.
Drill a hole in the center of each piece and use them as a backing plate sort of a big washer. Place this underneath the damaged area and through-bolt the GIVI mount.
I tried to modify your picture to give you an idea of what I mean.
I hope this helps. Please post so we know how you made out.

 

[Big Al]

Phil, - Thank you for responding... I appreciate the offer. However, I only need the bottom backing plate. (as seen in the pictures) I'm waiting for a GIVI dealer contact to return my call regarding a replacement part. I was hoping for just that part or another aftermarket solution, as I'm not happy with the design of GIVI's E215 Monokey mounting plate. - If GIVI refuses to send a replacement part, I'll be calling you for sure. - I'll PM you with contact info if I need it. Thank you very much Phill. - It's great that you live so close too... It'll be a good excuse for a ride.
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Hi Schavlan, - Thank you for responding.... You're Idea definitely works. I did just that before, using some stainless steel pieces of metal that were a bit too soft. The metal had bent over time, allowing the topbox to wiggle alot. It was still firmly connected but the wiggling drove me nuts. I think the best way to resolve this design flaw would be to get a replacement plate and also reinforce it with more steel backing. Preferrably using a harder steel. - I would also suggest anyone else using this mounting plate to reinforce it that same way for safety reasons when riding with a passenger.



I'm open to anyone's suggestions if there's better soulution or after market part for mounting the GIVI monokey topboxes?

Thanks

 

[ThreeWheels]

Replacing the supplied bracket and then reinforcing it is probably the very best solution.

If you get stuck and nothing else is available, you could try to use a stronger metal for the plates, or maybe put some washers in between the backing plates and the top box mount to act as a spacer to minimize bending. Just use one washer less than the thickness of the supporting plate.

If you used the spacer idea, you might even be able to use the plates you have now. Just flip them around so the bend is in the opposite direction. Assemble everything and use the bolts to draw it all together tight.

Alternately, you could drill a few more holes, and through bolt the backing plats on either side of the broken portion, and then use the washers as spacers to prevent any future bending.

This may not be the most elegant solution. I'm just trying to think of ways to get you going with the parts you have on hand.

 

[MeticulousRhino]

Hi Alan,

Here in Europe, my dealer has absolutely no problem in ordering spare parts for any GIVI kit. It may be different in the USA because of the distance and dealership.

The spare parts exist, whether they are easy to get or not may be another issue. Since it's a rather big lump of metal, there isn't much point me sending it to you, it will cost the earth. If ever you're really stuck I can do that for you though.

 

[Big Al]

I spoke to a GIVI distributer rep (Mike) yesterday in NC. One of his co-workers happened to see this thread.
Mike was very helpful and explained that GIVI stands by all thier products 100%. It appears that this is an isolated incident. Neither he or anyone we know, who has that same product, has had this happen to them. Unfortunately they don't sell that part separately but, Mike explained that all I have to do is ship the defective plate to them, with proof of purchase, and he'll send me a replacement part free of charge.

I'm

 

[Big Al]

I spoke to a GIVI distributer rep (Mike) yesterday in NC. One of his co-workers happened to see this thread.
Mike was very helpful and explained that GIVI stands by all thier products 100%. It appears that this is an isolated incident. Neither he or anyone we know, who has that same product, has had this happen to them. Unfortunately they don't sell that part separately but, Mike explained that all I have to do is ship the defective plate to them, with proof of purchase, and he'll send me a replacement part free of charge. - So far they've got my vote for good customer service.

I plan to ship it out today.

 

[Big Al]

I regret to say that I'm unable to find any paperwork showing proof of purchase. - Its been about 2 years since I bought it. Unfortunately, Mike was adamant about GIVI's policy :noway which means that I won't be getting any replacement from them. :mad1:

So, I'm forced to reinforce the one I have with steel backing to make do until after CTSTOC. At which time I'll be on the lookout for a BETTER product. I'd rather not buy another complete kit as, IMHO, I strongly feel its design is flawed and I would have to use steel reinforcement anyway.

 

[birdie_xx]

Design flaw or being unable to prove purchase and get a new one from Givi....does it really matter...no it doesn't!

A design flaw ? Hardly....

For the number of the ST kits that GIVI USA sells alone, and this is a very isolated example.

Big Al, sorry about your experience. I was under impression you were sorted out....

BTW the proof of purchase is not that uncomon between vendors.

I bought the Superbrace for the ST from a friend. As you can imagine I 've had no receipt.
I oppened the package one week, started to install it few weeks later.
The brace would not fit, even though the instruction sheet clearly showed the right application. So I called the Superbrace. The guy on the phone (Chris) asked for the stamped number on the piece itself and it turned out I had the brace for the CBR 1100XX....
So they had a mislabeled, mispackaged part, but because I had no receipt they were not going to do anything.

Hope you'll get your plate repaired.

Cheers,

 

[MidLife]

I regret to say that I'm unable to find any paperwork showing proof of purchase. - Its been about 2 years since I bought it. Unfortunately, Mike was adamant about GIVI's policy :noway which means that I won't be getting any replacement from them. :mad1:

So, I'm forced to reinforce the one I have with steel backing to make do until after CTSTOC. At which time I'll be on the lookout for a BETTER product. I'd rather not buy another complete kit as, IMHO, I strongly feel its design is flawed and I would have to use steel reinforcement anyway.

Looking at the picture you posted of your failed plate, something is wrong! But I am not sure it is the GIVI plate!

There is no reason for the plate to fail as you show it if the upper box supporting plate is properly installed. The failed area is normally not a high stress area and there is no reason for the plate to break there.

One reason I could see for a failure such as yours is incorrect installation, where the upper plate would not lay flat on the lower adapter plate.

Or a crash, where high side loads would be imparted to the box.

Did you do the original installation? Have you ever compared it to someone else's install?

If you install a new plate and do not correct what caused this one to fail, the new one will fail again!