Hondaline heated grips trouble shooting

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The after market grips only saw 1/4 their heat ouput with the controller on high.
Wired in parallel they will get hot.

No need to add the switch.
 
Thanks, guys. I remember now seeing that diagram in an earlier reply to my original posts.......had forgotten about the diagram. I have this great memory, it's just too dang short anymore. Good grief.

Also was talking with a good friend and riding buddy, and STOC member, who happens to be an electrical engineer. He, too, pointed out the obvious about the series/parallel consideration and also found a link from another heated grip thread that has a good diagram of symtec grips wired in parallel vs the Hondaline diagram wired in series.

So now it's simply a matter of wiring the grips in parallel and using the Honda controller and wiring. Will let the group know how it went when I get it finished. Thanks for saving me the trauma of drilling holes in a perfectly good motorcycle.
 
The diagram I referenced above about the Symtec grip diagram is found at the last post at the bottom of page one (02-18-09, honda_grip_controller_with_symtec_heaters.pdf, ) in the thread titled "Grip heaters Honda, Symtec G2 compatibility ?" 02-11-09
 
Re: UPDATE to Hondaline heated grips troubleshooting (from 11-12-11)

KCC said:
Checked with Honda; nope, heated grips are no longer available. Checked with David Silver Spares in England; nope, heated grips are no longer available. Figured that Honda is fairly smart, they want their products to be dependable, and there's probably a reason they discontinued them.
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You could also check with CMS in NL or bike-parts.fr in France; both show one or more Honda heated grips as still being available separately.

Ciao,
 
Re: UPDATE to Hondaline heated grips troubleshooting (from 11-12-11)

Well, I got the whole thing put back together, the grips (wired in parallel) work great, checked the grip temp with an infrared thermometer - 130-135 degrees in ten minutes or so, plenty warm.

I used the Hondaline grip kit wiring harness black wire to connect the grips in parallel, and only had to run one jumper across in front of the steering head.

If I may have not been clear in my 12/5 post, I used the shortened "friction sleeve" from Throttlemeister - it is cemented in place over the end of the throttle tube, the throttle side hot grip is cemented onto the throttle tube with approximately 1/2 milimeter space between the friction sleeve and the end of the grip, to allow for grip expansion when heated. The grip is mounted on the throttle tube with about a 2.5mm gap between the inboard end of the grip and the switch assembly. This gap reduces to about 2.0mm with the grips heated. I mounted the Throttlemeister with about .021" gap between the bronze piston in the Throttlemeister and the friction surface of the friction sleeve, with the grips cold. This much gap engages the Throttlemiester at ablout 1/4 turn, grips cold, and about 3/8 turn, or slightly more, with the grips up to temperature. With the friction sleeve mounted on the end of the throttle tube (with the approximately 1/2 mm gap mentioned above), grip expansion due to heating has little effect on the gap between the friction sleeve and the bronze piston in the Throttlemeister. The friction sleeve expands a slight amount with the grips heated, enough to reduce the engagement point from 1/4 turn to about 3/8 turn.

So far so good. It's been my experience with Throttlemeister initial installatin, that a little adjustment will probably be needed as the friction surface of the friction sleeve wears in, increasing the amount of turn the Throttlemeister takes to engage.

Thanks again to all who volunteered their help and suggestions to assist me with the installation. Especially for pointing out the series/parallel consideration that was causing me to see very little heat at the grips when I had them temporarily wired in series.

KCC
 
Re: UPDATE to Hondaline heated grips troubleshooting (from 11-12-11)

Oh, one more thing. The left side heated grip mounting is straightforward, as there is no throttle lock to consider. I cememted the left heated grip in place with approximately a 2mm gap inboard, between the grip and the switch housing, and outboard, between the end of the grip and the Throttlemeister bar end weight. Grip expansion when heated reduced this gap to about 1.5mm outboard, and about 1.0-1.5mm inboard. Not an issue.

KCC
 
The Hondaline grips connect to the electrical system via the quartet harness. The wiring from the rest of the bike to that harness is not very heavy. If you want somewhat more heat, connect them via a heavy (16 gauge or heavier) wire directly to the battery.

I have a 25 amp circuit that connects to a powerlet through a relay that's wired to turn off and on with the ignition switch, so I tapped into that.
 
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