If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website?

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Ok, perhaps this question has already been asked, if so please direct me to the correct archive thread.
(You would think they would still consider bringing it back into production? They have done this in the past and just recently with the NM4 - which is mind blowing considering how bizarre this bike is.)
Thank you. :confused:
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

Because they're Honda? And they can!
Upt'North.
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

It's still listed because there are bikes in crates in Honda's warehouses and at their dealers. The ST is still listed in the U.S. as a 2012 model and is gone completely from Honda Canada's web site. They're still selling the Pan in some markets (the U.K. and France, both of which have country-specifc models) but not in others (Germany, The Netherlands, South Africa, Australia). Once enough of it is sold off, the model listing will go away.

Without turning this into the inevitable string of posts about the NM4's looks, that bike drew something of a cult following and Honda saw enough demand to put it back into production. This has been discussed to no end in other threads, but the demand for STs isn't there despite how much we like to think of ourselves as a large market.

--Mark
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

Blrfl said:
there are bikes in crates in Honda's warehouses and at their dealers.
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I hope this is the case. My ST buddy's wife is trying to get him to replace Deerslayer with a new ST and he wants only NOSTS.
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

My local Dealer (Cal Coast Motorsports, Ventura) had a brand new '12 ST1300 on the floor last time I was there. Dunno if he still has it or not, that was about a month ago.
 
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Blrfl said:
Without turning this into the inevitable string of posts about the NM4's looks
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Why not? :well1:

It's one of the funnest sports on this board next to oil threads, filter threads and ST1300 replacement threads! :run1:
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

Oh, now that make perfect sense. Thank you. It makes me wonder how the FJR has continued to it's popularity (and sales) in this segment. Granted it now has every imaginable electronic option available other than a 8" infotainment screen, like you can find on Harleys & Indians (probably won't be much longer for that at the current rate of the sport-touring arms-race.)
Blrfl said:
It's still listed because there are bikes in crates in Honda's warehouses and at their dealers. The ST is still listed in the U.S. as a 2012 model and is gone completely from Honda Canada's web site. They're still selling the Pan in some markets (the U.K. and France, both of which have country-specifc models) but not in others (Germany, The Netherlands, South Africa, Australia). Once enough of it is sold off, the model listing will go away.

Without turning this into the inevitable string of posts about the NM4's looks, that bike drew something of a cult following and Honda saw enough demand to put it back into production. This has been discussed to no end in other threads, but the demand for STs isn't there despite how much we like to think of ourselves as a large market.

--Mark
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EASt said:
Why not? :well1:

It's one of the funnest sports on this board next to oil threads, filter threads and ST1300 replacement threads! :run1:
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You left out battery threads.:bow1:
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

Don't leave out the F6B, also skipped this year after a come back from being discontinued some years ago. And the CTX1300, and the Valkarie. All still on their web site. Honda does what Honda does. With a much larger market for much smaller bikes in many other countries they just play with the market here.
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

Just looking at the engines, ST vs. VFR, I'd say Honda has embraced the VFR. IMHO, the VFR1200 in ST configuration is Honda's horizon. (Then there are US Regulatory reasons American Honda does what it does.)
 
rjs987 said:
Don't leave out the F6B, also skipped this year after a come back from being discontinued some years ago. And the CTX1300, and the Valkarie. All still on their web site. Honda does what Honda does. With a much larger market for much smaller bikes in many other countries they just play with the market here.
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My local STealer has two CTX1300s on the floor as of last weekend. And at least one ST1300 listed on their Available To Rent section.
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

Here we go again......time for some popcorn

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DaveM said:
Here we go again......time for some popcorn

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Large please!
:bigpop:
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

And real butter not fake butter flavored oil!
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

I'd be OK with the VFR1200 motor in a sport-touring clothing...
ArTravlR said:
Just looking at the engines, ST vs. VFR, I'd say Honda has embraced the VFR. IMHO, the VFR1200 in ST configuration is Honda's horizon. (Then there are US Regulatory reasons American Honda does what it does.)
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Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

The ST1300 left the Honda Canada site ages ago, the CTX1300 is gone as well and the only Valkyrie listed is a 2015 model. I really think it's going to be long time, if ever, before we see another Honda ST. The VFR 1200 is gone and the engine has already been repackaged into the X adventure type bike so I'm not sure we're going to see an ST variant on this.
 
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The ST1300 left the Honda Canada site ages ago, the CTX1300 is gone as well and the only Valkyrie listed is a 2015 model. I really think it's going to be long time, if ever, before we see another Honda ST. The VFR 1200 is gone and the engine has already been repackaged into the X adventure type bike so I'm not sure we're going to see an ST variant on this.
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Here in the States, Sport Touring is dead to Honda. It had a good run, starting with the CBX, back in 1982, the V45/V65 Sabres, The Pacific Coast, the ST1100 and the ST1300. That's 30 years Honda supported it. Now seems, like a lot here on the forum, want the Adventure Bikes! Therefore that is what Honda now supports. Enjoy!

For me, I have NO desire to tromp around out in the dirt on a 600+ lb bike so I can fall off and break a leg, ankle, arm or otherwise! I have my ST1300s, they will last me until I can't ride any longer! :D
 
Re: If the ST1300 is out of production, why does Honda still list it on their website

I think the reason Yamaha has continued with the FJR is that it continues to be a darling of moto mags. The beloved ST was slammed in shoot-outs for its weight several years before Honda started to withdraw it from various markets. Although Honda has never confirmed this, the VFR1200 could only justify its investment if it were intended to be the replacement platform. Between a credit crisis fueled recession and the entire adventure bike surge, the VFR1200T never had a chance of seeing the light of day. It would be unfair to argue that the VFR1200F is a great solution for two up sport touring. Even the 6th gen VFR800 provides better pillion accommodations. (You can check that out on Cycle-Ergo.com.) But I think one could make the case that the VFR1200X could meet the need for a lot of riders looking for an ST replacement, even if it is pitched as an adventure bike. The low-seat gets it to 32.67 inches (830mm), which is a bit tall for me (30-inch inseam).
 
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