JB Weld Nut on OEM Honda Oil Filter

Terry500

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I'd like to continue to use the Honda OEM oil filters for my ST1300 but do love the nut on the K&N. Has anyone tried attaching a nut onto the Honda filter prior to installation? Perhaps JB Weld....
 
I have not. I doubt that it would hold against a twisting force on a smooth surface.

Have to ask though, why bother? It takes longer to do that than to remove the filter.
 
Appreciate the reply. Thought I'd rough up the surface with a little sandpaper before applying the epoxy to help it hold. My grip strength is terrible so I do have to use a filter socket to remove it and it's a bit of a pain. Figured a nut would make life just a tad easier.
 
I still wouldn't have confidence that the epoxy would hold but you can't loose much by trying. Just don't remove to much material roughing it up and cause a leak, the metal is pretty thin.

By filter socket do you mean the socket that fits over the end of the OEM filter so that a wrench or ratchet and socket can be used to remove it?

Just asking in case you weren't aware that they exist and effectively make removing the filter the same process as using the K&N type.
 
Terry500 said:
Thought I'd rough up the surface with a little sandpaper before applying the epoxy to help it hold. My grip strength is terrible so I do have to use a filter socket to remove it and it's a bit of a pain. Figured a nut would make life just a tad easier.
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I too wouldn't feel confident the nut would hold. I'd go further and say short of welding there's no add-on method that would accomplish what you want.

There are oil filter wrenches – the 'cap' that fits on the end of the filter - with a stud or socket to which a socket or extension and ratchet can be attached. I believe a stubborn filter is often if not most likely the result of improper installation. Related to that is not having an oil filter wrench that perfectly fits your filter of choice. Sometimes you have to try a few wrenches 'till one works for you.

I think too many people follow the basic tightening instruction and then give it 'a little extra'. Having been baked on for thousands of miles the filter is now a bear to remove. I've seen this happen more than a few times. There has been one or maybe two member posts here about them removing the filter by hand no wrench required. That's not me. But I've never struggled with any of my bikes' filters. Of course the easiest by far was for my 750-4.
 
One concern is if roughing up the surface involves removing any paint from the filter can, you might be opening up an opportunity for rust. That filter pretty much lives down where the road muck is.
 
Not a fan of those cup style removers, I find they slip.
My favorite is this grip it style, the harder you torque it, the tighter it grips....

Check diameter to see if it will fit a ST oil filter
 
mello dude said:
Not a fan of those cup style removers, I find they slip.
My favorite is this grip it style, the harder you torque it, the tighter it grips....

Check diameter to see if it will fit a ST oil filter
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Dunno, might work on an ST, would never fit on bikes like my GF's NT700VA where the filter faces rear, right into the swing-arm pivot...
Hence I couldn't even use a style like this there:

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I've a good number of those cup style filter wrenches, simply because David Silver had a "filter + wrench set" sale for a noticeable lower price as for filters alone...

As for that cup-wrench gripping on that filter (likely stuck due road grime) I got a simple procedure:
- set cup-wrench on
- loosen filter
- slightly tighten filter again (a silent crunch confirms its releasing off the filter housing)
- slip the wrench off
- unscrew filter by hand (got my oil bowl underneath I need to aim/empty that filter into anyway)
 
Larry Fine said:
Universal oil-filter wrench:

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You're right!
Long long ago in 1990 after bought my first new car, Acura Integra, I watched the mechanic change the oil for the first time. That's what he was using at the dealership. :)
I've had a few large pair of those ever since.
 
Hey, JB Weld and a nut sounds cheap to at least try it. Grind the paint off and give it a good rough surface, apply JB Weld and nut.

I think there is clearance behind the plastic to apply it and leave it on the whole time. But you can also do it just before you change the oil if you wanted to try it out first. Just have to drop the plastic to access it. Good luck!
 
I had 70,000 trouble-free miles on my ST1300 using K&N filters before I read the negative reviews. I know there was a bad batch some time ago. I'm assuming the issue has been resolved. I'll keep using the K&N filters. I love that nut.
 
mello dude said:
Not a fan of those cup style removers, I find they slip.
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If you tap the filter wrench on to the filter (gently, with a small hammer and a block of wood) it won't slip when you turn it.
Then, to get the filter wrench off, just put a flat-blade screwdriver against the lip of the filter and tap it with a hammer - it will pop right off.
Works every time :biggrin: .
 
I have over 400,000 miles on five different ST1300s. I have been using the K&N 204 filters since, I can't remember when, but sometime around 2006 or 2007. I have yet had an issue with any of them and if you look at my signature you'll see I've put some miles on them all.

Just use the K&N and don't worry about it! :cool:
 
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