Led tail light conversion

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Honda ST1100
Hi,

I've just finished a project that might be of interest here. The tail light bulbs of my ST1100 have now been replace by some led boards I made. Visibility is a lot better, and so is response time.

The whole story is at: https://www.geekabit.nl/projects/led-tail-light/

Regards,
Maarten

led-tail-light-installed.jpg
 
Thanks Upt'North!

Actually, I'm a long time reader, but today I finally took the step to register an account, so I could post something.

With several people modding lights and replacing bulbs with leds I thought this might make a nice addition. If I happen to inspire someone, that's a bonus ;)

Cheers,
Maarten
 
Welcome to the forum Maarten.

Looks nice and bright!

That's also quite a detailed write up you have on the planning and construction!
 
Thanks for your kind responses.

I enjoy reading about other peoples builds and mods, so when I make something I try to write the article I would like to read myself. That's why I don't leave out any of the nitty gritty technical details. Well, actually I do, otherwise the article would be at least twice as long and probably boring.
Don't ask me to rebuild an engine or do anything more technically complicated than an oil change, but electronics is something I understand and love tinkering with :)
 
I've just finished a project that might be of interest here.
Wow. WOW. That is a brilliant mod and a really really great article. Well done. Love the attention to detail and the mention of elegance in your build.

I lack the patience to test determine and configure such an array but I can solder. :rofl1:

You mention both position lights (for the rear) and tail lights. Are they the same thing? We have discrete position lights on the front of ST1300s but not on the rear.

As a personal preference mine is for a 'smooth' blanket of light from an incandescent instead of the multiple points of light from an LED array. Would doubling the density of LEDs be doable? And adding a diffuser? I realized the current values would be different.

I've replaced the incandescent bulbs (except for the ST1300's two position lights in the headlight assembly) with LEDs. They don't illuminated the lens as evenly as incandescents but they're brighter than stock.

Your mod is out of my plug n play nature but it's very good. Thanks for sharing it with us.
 
Thanks for the positive response!

Let me try to answer some of your questions.

"You mention both position lights (for the rear) and tail lights. Are they the same thing? We have discrete position lights on the front of ST1300s but not on the rear."

Now that I look at it, the wording might be a bit confusing. I tried to use the proper terms (as found in the Wikipedia article on automotive lighting), but not being a native English speaker I might not have used the most intuitive terms. With position light I mean the big red light, with tail light I mean the entire unit consisting of indicator lights and position/stop light. If you can suggest clearer wording, please do!


"As a personal preference mine is for a 'smooth' blanket of light from an incandescent instead of the multiple points of light from an LED array. Would doubling the density of LEDs be doable? And adding a diffuser? I realized the current values would be different."

I agree with the smooth surface, that is what I was aiming for with this build. The only other led tail light unit I've ever used had this done very nicely. My guess would be that it has to do with diffusion. The lens on the led unit had all this tiny pyramids on the inside, the lens for the bulb unit didn't have that. Short of making your own lens I don't think you can easily reproduce this effect. Putting in another type of diffuser might work, such as some white plexiglass. I don't have any and find the current smoothness good enough, but it could be a path worth investigating.

Doubling the density of leds should not be a problem. I've spaced them quite far apart to limit the total number I put in the tail light, but you can easily put 2 or maybe even 3 times as many leds in. If you move the current regulators to the bottom or the side, then you can fill the entire surface with leds. This would also give you the option of going brighter if you like, but it would also be a good take on the smoothness. Total light output is a function of the current. As long as you don't change the values of the current source you'll get the same light output no matter how many leds you put in.


"I've replaced the incandescent bulbs (except for the ST1300's two position lights in the headlight assembly) with LEDs. They don't illuminated the lens as evenly as incandescents but they're brighter than stock."

Not all led bulbs are created equally. Some have leds on only one surface, some have them all around. The results of retrofitting these vary with how the lens and reflector respond to this. Actually, this is one of the reasons I decided to put in a led board instead of only swapping out the bulb.


"I lack the patience to test determine and configure such an array but I can solder."

If you are confident that you can build from a schematic diagram, you can probably make your own. The design work is already done. But if you're unsure, you might not want to experiment too much with something so essential to your safety in traffic.


If people are actually interested I might design a pcb (printed circuit board) after all. That would make it easier for tinkerers to build their own :)


Cheers,
Maarten
 
If you can suggest clearer wording, please do!
We call the red part with the dual-filament bulbs the tail light and brake light, and the amber parts with the single-filament bulbs are the turn signals. The assembly is called the rear combination light (housing).

Also, our front turn signals double as marker (or running) lights, also dual-filament bulbs. Each bulb's dimmer filament extinguishes when that side's signal is in use to create greater contrast to other drivers.
 
Thanks for the detailed response. It's quite — illuminating. No worries about your terminology. Often the US is unique in it's vocabulary (just ask a Brit!). The only clue I had that you were a non-Native English speaker was your location and your excellent command of written English. So I'm up to speed and still impressed with your mod. You maintained the factory appearance and without the use of duct tape. Very commendable. :D
 
Have not been able to view your link for some reason.
"Secure Connection Failed" each time.

Hmm, let's see how that could have happened.

*messes with web server settings for a while*

Which browser are you using and which version, if I may ask? I have set the web server security quite, ehm, modern. Many older security features have been disabled because today most of them are not considered very secure anymore. As far as I know most modern browsers (Android 7+, Chrome 69+, Firefox 49+, IE 11+, Edge 15+, Safari 9+) should support it. For anyone interested in tls settings, have a look at: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=www.geekabit.nl&s=83.137.144.38

Regards,
Maarten
 
We call the red part with the dual-filament bulbs the tail light and brake light, and the amber parts with the single-filament bulbs are the turn signals. The assembly is called the rear combination light (housing).
That explain the confusion. I will have a look at the wording of the article later today, to see if I can make it more clear for everybody.

Also, our front turn signals double as marker (or running) lights, also dual-filament bulbs. Each bulb's dimmer filament extinguishes when that side's signal is in use to create greater contrast to other drivers.
And that explains all those running lights and switch back relays I've been seeing. Wouldn't it be nice to have the same set of regulations apply globally, so we can make use of the best every country has to offer?

Cheers,
Maarten
 
No worries about your terminology. Often the US is unique in it's vocabulary (just ask a Brit!).

I love how in English there are a hundred different ways to say the same thing, but also how a single word can mean a hundred different things. Then there are the national and regional differences. Not to get started about spelling. And if that wasn't enough, there's also false friends (words in different languages that look or sound similar, but differ significantly in meaning), such as "tail light".

Long story short, I'll see if I can tweak the wording to make it a bit less ambiguous.

Cheers,
Maarten
 
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