Left Pocket Lid Lock

AV8R

AV8R

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Mine imploded, that is to say the sliding dust cover and a small spring broke and fell into the key slot. Cant put the key back in and the lid is locked shut.

Im thinking that either I go to a locksmith and clean out the key way, or drill out the lock so I can replace it. Being a new oem lock (77233-MBL-611) is ~$10 and a smithy ~$50 and still the lock maybe broken, Im leaning towards replacement that I can do myself. Only drawback is now ill have two keys instead of one master.

I don’t believe these pocket lid locks can be opened like the saddlebag ones can, so the pins can be matched with a key. It would take a very specific tool to remove the lock’s too cover

Anyone know different?
 
AV8R said:
Mine imploded, that is to say the sliding dust cover and a small spring broke and fell into the key slot. Cant put the key back in and the lid is locked shut.

Im thinking that either I go to a locksmith and clean out the key way, or drill out the lock so I can replace it. Being a new oem lock (77233-MBL-611) is ~$10 and a smithy ~$50 and still the lock maybe broken, Im leaning towards replacement that I can do myself. Only drawback is now ill have two keys instead of one master.

I don’t believe these pocket lid locks can be opened like the saddlebag ones can, so the pins can be matched with a key. It would take a very specific tool to remove the lock’s too cover

Anyone know different?
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DO NOT DO THIS WITH A FULL TANK OF GAS!

With a half tank of gas of less, lift up the tank. you can take a small straight bladed screw driver and push the tab from the side and it will open.
 
Like you my lock also imploded. I was able to open the cover via the gas tank method. I removed the lock and tapped it firmly upside down and was able to remove the spring and cover. I them could get the key in to turn the lock. I reinstalled the lock and have been using it this way for a couple of years now. I did order a replacement lock, but like you I could not figure out how it could be re-keyed. If you solve that riddle I would like to hear the answer.

Good Luck

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I didn't have this problem but I cut off keys and epoxied them into plastic knobs and used them in left lid and saddle bags. I used key from left lid to unlock fuel tank, but that wouldn't work for you. If concerned with security just pull keys out. I never did.
 
I decided to go the replacement lock path and instead of waiting until my tank is empty enough to lift it up, I just twisted it out with a screwdriver. Had stuff in there I needed that couldn’t wait.

Have a new lock and key ordered, so it means a second key for now on. Some key smiths have a device which can peel back the lid on these locks to change the pins, but not the one I use. I’m sure not often is it needed and replacement is cheaper. The plastic cover on this new key is different from the original key, so I shouldn’t have too much trouble picking the right one.

This experience makes me think that the Honda key slot’s sliding dust cover that is thin (metal or plastic) and can and did break on the left pocket, might also be the same for the other locks as well. So I’ll be gentler with the other ones, especially the ignition switch. Which means use the pointed nose of the key to slide the dust cover versus just pushing it straight in, and not with force when it doesn’t immediately go in.

Thanks for the replies
 
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AV8R said:
I decided to go the replacement lock path and instead of waiting until my tank is empty enough to lift it up, I just twisted it out with a screwdriver. Had stuff in there I needed that couldn’t wait.

Have a new lock and key ordered, so it means a second key for now on. Some key smiths have a device which can peel back the lid on these locks to change the pins, but not the one I use. I’m sure not often is it needed and replacement is cheaper. The plastic cover on this new key is different from the original key, so I shouldn’t have too much trouble picking the right one.

This experience makes me think that the Honda key slot’s sliding dust cover that is thin (metal or plastic) and can and did break on the left pocket, might also be the same for the other locks as well. So I’ll be gentler with the other ones, especially the ignition switch. Which means use the pointed nose of the key to slide the dust cover versus just pushing it straight in, and not with force when it doesn’t immediately go in.

Thanks for the replies
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Agree 100%. I now use the pointed nose of the key to slide the dust cover.
I also had a problem with my left pocket lid not operating and had to go in from the side.
 
I too had this problem and have been just going without the lock but I do like dohboy suggestion in making a plastic knob and just leaving it in place.
 
Make 2 more of the key knobs and use them in the saddlebags. All 3 locks use a shorter portion of the key than the ignition does. I also leave the knobs in the 3 locks to make it easier to access the bags and compartment. Like Ron said I just pull them out and lock them in the compartment when parking the bike during travels.
 
Has anyone thought of solving the two key issue by having one key, by cutting one side of a new key for one key and the other side of the new key with the other key?

One key opens both, you just have to remember which side is which! ;)
 
fnmag said:
Agree 100%. I now use the pointed nose of the key to slide the dust cover.
I also had a problem with my left pocket lid not operating and had to go in from the side.
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You guys are not totaling the bike out soon enough. I am the reason 2005's are scarce.
 
The lock will be here next Wednesday. My bike is now and forever non-stock.

:wht13:

Can someone make a ST-PA version of this?
 
You might
AV8R said:
I don’t believe these pocket lid locks can be opened like the saddlebag ones can, so the pins can be matched with a key. It would take a very specific tool to remove the lock’s too cover

Anyone know different?
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I asked a member here who is a locksmith this question on your behalf. You might be interested in keeping an eye on this question and this post for the answer that hopefully will be forthcoming.
 
AV8R said:
Mine imploded, that is to say the sliding dust cover and a small spring broke and fell into the key slot. Cant put the key back in and the lid is locked shut.

Im thinking that either I go to a locksmith and clean out the key way, or drill out the lock so I can replace it. Being a new oem lock (77233-MBL-611) is ~$10 and a smithy ~$50 and still the lock maybe broken, Im leaning towards replacement that I can do myself. Only drawback is now ill have two keys instead of one master.

I don’t believe these pocket lid locks can be opened like the saddlebag ones can, so the pins can be matched with a key. It would take a very specific tool to remove the lock’s too cover

Anyone know different?
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Get a earth magnetc from home depot. Touch it to a jewelers screwdriver and dig it out
 
Good idea, but is the sliding dust cap made of metal or plastic?

Either way, I’ve already removed mine (destructively I must add) and tossed it.
Next week the replacement should be here.

Should someone here figure out how to rekey these, I’ll gladly go in for a replacement so I can go back to single key. I know it can be done, but you have to have the right lid remover tool and the proper pins.
 
I'd bet middlin' money it's metal. Even jet-age plastic wouldn't wear very well. Is it a ferrous metal though. I think so but that I wouldn't bet on.
 
SupraSabre said:
Has anyone thought of solving the two key issue by having one key, by cutting one side of a new key for one key and the other side of the new key with the other key?

One key opens both, you just have to remember which side is which! ;)
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Good thinking SupraSabre.This is the simplest and cheapest idea... most just file a small notch into one side of the key as a reminder of which side is which.
 
Yes, which side is which and where is 'up' on the locks in question. Or mark the locks bezel.
 
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