Left Pocket Lid Lock

[EJay]

Good thinking SupraSabre.This is the simplest and cheapest idea... most just file a small notch into one side of the key as a reminder of which side is which.

The ignition keys, at least in most cars, actually need both sides of the key, but this approach would likely work for gas/panniers/pocket locks. I'll cut a key on just one side for my own bike and see if its sufficient to work the ignition, and report back what I find.

 

[mlheck]

Why not buy another bike that still uses one key

Or one that doesn't need a key........Keyfob

Sent using Tapatalk

 

[AV8R]

Or one that doesn't need a key........Keyfob

Sent using Tapatalk

Wow
https://www.st-owners.com/forums/threads/st1300-install-bluetooth-keyless-ignition.157056/

 

[Bmacleod]

The ignition keys, at least in most cars, actually need both sides of the key, but this approach would likely work for gas/panniers/pocket locks. I'll cut a key on just one side for my own bike and see if its sufficient to work the ignition, and report back what I find.

Yes, I would be interested in your findings,Thank you. Things may have changed, but years ago (mid 80's), from what I understand, most cars only used one side, when a double sided key was used. I had few fords in the 80's and had cut "dual" keys for them. I would only carry one key and could start 2 vehicles with it.

 

[EJay]

Yes, I would be interested in your findings,Thank you. Things may have changed, but years ago (mid 80's), from what I understand, most cars only used one side, when a double sided key was used. I had few fords in the 80's and had cut "dual" keys for them. I would only carry one key and could start 2 vehicles with it.

I know what you mean - I routinely cut things like Yakima ski lock keys with one code on one side and one on the other. Ignitions have gotten a little more secure though. My Jeeps (97, I happen to have two) require both sides of the lock.


OK so I just now did this for the ST1300 - I cut just one side of a fresh blank and it worked in all locks except the ignition. So you could make an accessory or 'shorty' key that would work mismatched locks but it won't do the ignition.

 

[Bmacleod]

Ah, okay... Good to know. Hopefully I'll never need a second lock. I guess it makes sense that they now use both sides of the key in the ignition with all the security nowadays.
Thanks

 

[AV8R]

So this story has an interesting ending (so far anywho)...

The replacement lock and keys came today and work great


Back in business


Now i have two keys, and the handle end are unique so there shouldn’t be a mix up issue.


Oddly enough, the new lock’s key works also on the left side saddle bag, but no where else (including the ignition).

For the lock smithys amongst us, im having my right side pocket altered to add yet another lock. If we can open the lock, we will key match both pocket locks. Heres what the tool looks like that removes and reseals the lock lid:

 

[fnmag]

So this story has an interesting ending (so far anywho)...

The replacement lock and keys came today and work great


Back in business


Now i have two keys, and the handle end are unique so there shouldn’t be a mix up issue.


Oddly enough, the new lock’s key works also on the left side saddle bag, but no where else (including the ignition).

For the lock smithys amongst us, im having my right side pocket altered to add yet another lock. If we can open the lock, we will key match both pocket locks. Heres what the tool looks like that removes and reseals the lock lid:

Congrats. Glad you got the lock sorted out.

 

[AV8R]

Notice that the dust cover door is designed to be swiped and not pushed directly in. Thats why theres a indentation on one side to insert the key nose there first. This is how these sliders are broken, when just pushing the key straight in.

Lesson learned

 

[ibike2havefun]

Notice that the dust cover door is designed to be swiped and not pushed directly in. Thats why theres a indentation on one side to insert the key nose there first. This is how these sliders are broken, when just pushing the key straight in.

Lesson learned

Alternate approach is to cut the head off a sacrificial duplicate key, epoxy on a radio control knob, stick the thing in the lock, and never take it out again. Yes it makes the pocket un secure. So?

 

[AV8R]

So here in LA LA Land, the zombies steal anything off even police bikes not locked down whilst having lunch. I either lock everything up, or carry it.