motoport kevlar

jagueri

to those of you that have the motoport gear. is the kevlar gear waterproof without the liner? can you spray it with a waterproofing agent that will make it waterproof? i think i have narrowed it down to motoport stuff for protective reasons, but i would like something with a waterproof shell so i dont have to stop and put on a liner.
 
Not waterproof (stretch kevlar) but can stand a little rain for a short while if it's not pouring. Waterproof would be nice but it's no big deal to put some rain gear on if needed. I don't use the liners for rain, only for warmth. By the way, the gore-tex liners are large enough so it's possible to wear them on the outside of the jacket as well.
 
One liner is insulated, and I sometimes go down to the mid thirties with that and maybe long undies or fleece or sweatshirt or such, and definitely a fleece neck thingie.
 
The kevlar mesh is not waterproof and no amount of waterproofing will make it that way, it's not even a good sieve. The liners make it waterproof, but used as designed, they require removal of the jacket and pants. I have just a wind/water liner for the pants and the jacket has the cold weather liner. I have riden in the high 30's with a tee shirt and jeans under.
 
Kevlar air mesh motoport is watertight with the rain liners, not even close without the rain liners. Add the winter liner and I ride comfortably down to 28 degrees F on the highway for hours. So far I have 12,000+ miles in the outfit.
 
mitchnj said:
Since I already have Gerbings heated liner maybe I should just get the non-insulated liner? Regardless it sounds like one heck of a great winter liner!
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It is a great winter liner, but...

I have the non-insulated liner and the insulated liner. When I wear them with long underwear and the Gerbing jacket liner the outfit is very tight and I feel incredibly bulky. The Motoport liners without the Gerbing keep me bone dry and warm, but on my last 11 hour ride in very cold temps I did notice a bit of a chill when traveling 75+mph in 30 degree F temps.

So, I'm now considering the Motoport rain suit to wear over the Motoport air kevlar mesh protective gear when temps drop to 30 degrees. The rain suit manufacturer is the same one that made the liners but instead of fitting inside the kevlar mesh outfit it goes over the outfit. Leaving the Motoport liners out of the outfit should provide me with more room for the heated gerbing jacket liner and pant liner. Hopefully I won't feel as bulky with restricted arm and leg flexibility.

In hindsight, I probably should have opted for the Motoport rain suit instead of the liners (But, to be fair, when I purchased the Motoport outfit in August 2008 I didn't even know about electric liners). Not only will the rain suit give me more room for the heated clothing but with an outer wear rain suit, I don't have to take off the kevlar mesh outfit on and off. So I learned a valuable lesson and got 12,000+ miles of experience with the motoport liners.

P.S. If you don't plan on riding 75+mph for hours in 30 degree F weather Motoport liners versus Motoport rain suit is a non-issue. Go with the liners.
 
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