Radar Detector Mounting etc.

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I recently got a warning, for doing 55 in a 45. It could have easily been avoided. So I've been looking closely at Radar Detectors and mounting them and using them on a bike.

I've read pretty much all the posts here, and other forums. There really aren't any "standards'. Some have shelf mounts, some have tray mounts, some have motorcycle specific Detectors that have antenna in the front and rear, and some have normal detectors mounted behind their fairings.

Another issue is 'how to be alerted by the dectector, on a motorcycle'. Some use nothing, some the HARD system, or the HUD system, or they jack into existing hearing devices already a part of their setup (music etc). Some are also using a highly amplified speaker thing or LED lights to alert them.

I've decided to go a specific way, and maybe others can say yay or nay and why, and it will help others not waste too much time with this.

First, the attachment explains one option I found: If you cant see it properly (some pic issues lately), it shows a great spot behind the very front of the fairing that can be accessed by taking off the black inner cowl on the left side.

This would allow for a hidden install. Easily waterproofed (pretty much is already), and I think it would work well, as radar goes through plastic ok, but not metal. It wouldn't work for laser though (or so I've read).

But there are downsides too. Although you dont have to worry about theft, turning from 'highway' to 'city' (or any adjustments) wouldnt be easy. And moving it between bike and car would be a chore too.

Because I wanted to get one of the 'top 3', I kinda ruled out the bike specific ones.

So I've decided to get a passport 8500 x50 and mount it with the Turbo Tom left dash mount. And use a Marc Parnes LED visual alert on top of the dash. I think it would work the best this way, being higher up. It may also catch something behind you, and has the (albeit remote) possiblity of catching laser in time.

Decided on the visual alert over the loud audio one mostly because I dont want to be downtown, in traffic, and have it go off and have everyone starring at me. I've also heard that in some situations, wind, earplugs, etc they are still hard to hear. I think I can get use to having the Visual Alert in my peripheral vision and just need to pay attention to that 'area' somewhat more then normal.

Anyway, I'll admit this has been a pia. I really wish there were more bike specific Detectors, that met the specific needs we have. Deciding between a visual or audio alert, for instance, without being able to try them, is a crap shoot.

So, if anyone has any thoughts, new info, etc etc, please join in! Regards,
 
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The 8500 won't fit on the TT dash mount if it is the forward position one. Make sure you tell him you want the rear position mount...(I am still not sure it will work). I got the TT left and right forward mounts then bridged the two with my own fabricated piece of aluminum.
 

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Hey TxRebel,
yeah we found that out, kinda the hard way. With my standard screen, the forward mount wouldn't even attach. I dont have the 8500 yet, but the reverse mount looks like it will be fine.

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Your Escort is a nice detector. Good choice! I use a Bel Rx65 mounted in the center of the dash and connected to the Autocom and I use their helmet speakers. I usually have the volume set between 1/4 & 1/2 way and there is more than enough volume to hear using earplugs at any speed you'll ever see on an ST. Audio in the helmet is the best way to get your attention IMO. To mount it I just used an "L" shaped piece of plastic cut to be level on the dash bolted on at the aft edge of the dash. Excuse the antena that was just a trial and is now mounted under the dash out of sight
 

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Velcro the Escort 8500 to brake resevoir, beam goes through plastic and rear beam goes between arm and torso. Use the lighter plug with mute button on the clutch resevoir, just use two zip ties to secure. Mine has worked this way for 45 K miles. It is a 5 second removal, pull lighter plug, grap the unit and pull off, speaker cord extension will release on it's own, then lock the unit and cord in the saddle bag.

Want the unit more secure, use Ram mounts (If they really want it, two hands on the unit and a full body jerk will probably break it loose anyway.)
 
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Hey Good Morning and Thnx guys...

I think the responses have proven one of my points, that there isn't a 'standard'.

Some have their detectors in the fairing pockets (read where someone changed it from fairing to tray), Ray uses the Whistler one (bike specific), etc.

Maybe if I can find the time I'll do a write up, pros and cons, of the different options, to help others make a decision.

Has anyone, that has their detector in plain view, had it cause them a problem with the police? Heck, you could be stopped at a traffic light and have one stop next to you and it's gonna be obvious you're using one...

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Has anyone, that has their detector in plain view, had it cause them a problem with the police? Heck, you could be stopped at a traffic light and have one stop next to you and it's gonna be obvious you're using one...
Never been an issue. Also having it handy and in view makes it easier to adjust the volume, brightness and monitor the signal strength.
 

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I think your plan is good but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble. I can't see the pic because it's corrupted though. I mounted my Passport inside a fly fishing tackle box from Gander Mountain. It keeps it hidden and there's enough crap on my dash that with the power off on the bike you would probably not realize there's a radar detector in there even though there is plexiglass on either end of it.

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Hank,
I too having been wrestling with the same decisions. thanks for the Marc Parnes lead... thought there must be such a solution out there. Are you concerned about daytime visibility? (I guess it would depend how centrally you mount the LED unit). Believe there is also a wireless helmet-mounted LED that you could also use, but that sounds like we're gettin' more expensive and more complicated. The ideal for me would be a LED strip mounted along the undercurve of dash, powered like the Parnes unit... any electro wizards out there?

Electrajoe's velcro solution for the unit iteself has appeal for its simplicity of removal, but velcro'ing this unit on has me nervous, I must admit!
 
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Hank,
I too having been wrestling with the same decisions. thanks for the Marc Parnes lead... thought there must be such a solution out there. Are you concerned about daytime visibility? (I guess it would depend how centrally you mount the LED unit). Believe there is also a wireless helmet-mounted LED that you could also use, but that sounds like we're gettin' more expensive and more complicated. The ideal for me would be a LED strip mounted along the undercurve of dash, powered like the Parnes unit... any electro wizards out there?

Electrajoe's velcro solution for the unit iteself has appeal for its simplicity of removal, but velcro'ing this unit on has me nervous, I must admit!
Good Q's. I have the hyper-lites on the brakes, and even in bright sunlight they can be seen quite well. But while I can "imagine" a bright sun directly behind you causing a momentary (read expensive) delay in acknowledgement, one can also imagine a noisy semi, lots of cars, and lots of wind causing a similar delay with an (external) audio alert.

I'm guessing the best alert would be sound inside your helmet. Loud enough to be heard over anything. But I've tried molded ear plugs with a speaker inside, didn't work for me. The music was great, but when turned off too much wind noise.

I'll report on their use once I know. Comments from other users so far are positive.

Regards,
 

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I've heard of problems with certain shelves and the inability to adjust the windscreen over a significant distance.

I'm interested in a removable, durable, and effective mounting scheme so the idea of using the suction cup mount to the windscreen appeals to me. I've narrowed it down to either the Passport 8500 +50 or the Valentine V1.

Has anyone tried the supplied suction cup windshield mount? Did the unit remain attached at speed? Is the angle of the windshield sufficient to keep the detector parallel to the road?

Does anyone know how much power the unit requires? I've got the stock cigarette outlet plug and run my Garmin 276C GPS from the plug. The plug is fused at 2A and I'd like to be able to run both at the same time (through a splitter).
 
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RAM ball on the brake reservoir, 3 inch RAM straight arm, and RAM magnetic mounting plate works great with Escort 8500 / 50 for me. Got it all at http://www.legalspeeding.com/ . Looks like LegalSpeeding has changed the package a bit since I got mine.

BTY, got a brochure from Escort yesterday announcing a new Escort 9500 that uses GPS for new unique features...I won't be trading up anytime soon though.
 
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Well here's an update on where I am with this.

I've got turbo toms left side mounting bracket installed (not much to doing that).

Also found some 3M Dual Lock, which btw was not at all easy, must have called / visited 10 different stores. (I wanted more of the dual lock then Tom supplies).

Decided to do it "right" - and ordered a quartet harness and some Hitachi plugs (and the crimpers... this is all adding up let me tell ya).

Got the Marc Parnes visual alert. Marc emailed me the diagram of the unit, showing where you can modify the base and where you can't. I had asked him about sanding it to fit flush with the dashboard. He's great to deal with, highly recommend.

Oh yeah, got the passport 8500 x50 too ;) pretty nice. Substantial too, heavy.

So I've got some work to do obviously.

One negative thing. Escort sent me an email about a Florida Senator that has proposed legislation that would make it illegal to use a radar detector or anything of the sort in Florida :eek:

wouldnt' u know it lol ;)
 

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I use an Escort in plain sight on my ST's, never had a problem with LEO's. For the 1300 I machined a nylon mount that fastens to the center of the dash. The radar detector mounts on the bracket with heavy duty velcro so it is quick to dismount. I recently installed a Marc Parnes LED display to test heads up with the HARD display in my helmet. I modified the LED body by cutting about 1/4" off of the top at the proper angle and mounted it below the nylon bracket. It is compact and works great. I believe the HARD display will work better as an instant alert, but I am trying to find an alternative to replacing batteries in my helmet for long trips.
The only problem with this mounting is the potential for rain damage. If I'm riding in a storm, I put he detector in my tank bag. So far, after about 28,000 miles of trips, this setup has work great.
 

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I have a Bel Pro RX65 velcroed to a TT mount on the left and use the Marc Parnes visual alert along with the audible alert into a headset. I use a 2-into 1 splitter I got from radio shack, works great. A couple of things you need to know about the Marc Parnes led unit, it plugs into the earphone jack of the radar detector but it won't work unless the volume of the detector is up at about 1/3 or more, this may make the audible alert too loud if not tempered by a separate volume control. Also, the mute button on the detector shuts off the Marc Parnes leds along with the sound; you then watch the detector for signal strength if muted. They warn you not to use the leds at night, very very bright. I just mount them with Velcro on the TT mount on the right and turn the block outwards slightly at night to avoid blinding myself. Best setup I could come up with.
 
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Hank,

I too got the Marc Parnes LED unit after discovering the HUD stalk was just too close to my eye. I put the LED block in the right upper vent after taking off the 'dash' cover. I used clay to hold it in place so I could aim it at my eyes in a normal riding position. When I got that right, I used a small drill and drilled into the LED block being careful not to hit the LEDs (really, not a problem) I used two pop rivets to hold the block to a small aluminum 'L' bracket and two small screws to hold the bracket to the plastic inside the vent.

I works great in the daylight. It flashes just like the Escort beeps. Slow for far, fast for near. It's almost too good at night. Make sure you have the Escort's volume turned all the way up for it to work properly.

I mounted my Escort on a plate attached to a RAM ball in the 'valley' to the right of my fairing center. I would have used TT's small shelf had it been available. BTW, Cycle Gadgets has a plastic cover for the Escort to keep any rain out.
I hope the pictures make it clear.
 

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I've got my V-1 right in the center of the dashboard. Got pulled over by a LEO on the way to TexSTOC in the fall and he gave me a warning, so having the radar detector in plain sight didn't tip him toward being more "religious" about things.

I used a small little block of balsa wood that I shaped to fit and painted black as the mount. It's worked great. That said...I'm going to order one of Turbo Tom's shelf mounts and move it to that. Gets it more to the side (better able to pick up the rear signals) and I think will be slightly more stable.

This was the poor man's approach and it worked fine.
 
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