Seat Pad Opinions

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2004 ST1300
I did a Saddle Sore 1000 a couple of weekends ago and the stock seat was OK in the comfort area but the budget is tight so I am looking at seat pad options.
Many years ago when I had a Gold Wing I used a Bead Rider and I liked the results. I like the fact that air circulates underneath especially now in Texas. But I was intrigued by the dry polymer substance of the Butt Buffer pad(www.buttbuffer.com). Has anyone used the Butt Buffer vs Bead Rider and what do you like / dislike about them.

Thanks,
NikonHonda
 
If you did 1000 miles on the stock seat and all you have to say is it was "OK", I think you deserve a medal. You also may suffer from some sort of nerve damage in your posterior! I can't imagine doing 1000 miles on a stock seat!!!

Sorry I can't offer any advice on seat pads. I've heard some good things about the Alaskan Sheepskin option for the ST seat, but I haven't tried one yet. I'd say the Spencer seat mod is another cost effective way to improve comfort but you'd have to do without your seat for a week or so while it was out getting fixed up.
 
And to think that my first SS1000 was done on a 1980 XS1100 with a stock seat as well.
Anyway I did manage to make the seat slightly more comfortable by moving the front seat adjuster to its highest position but placing the rear of the seat in its mid-position. Now I don't slide forward to the tank and my knees no longer contact the lower fairing.
 
I've done a couple of 1000 mile days on my stock seat too.
I use an Airhawk seat cushion, some like it some don't, but it works for me.
 
I tried the Butt Buffer, and found it did little for me. YMMV. The best seat pad I've used is the Freedom Air:

http://www.longerride.com/

but at least one person here has tried it an didn't like it. The creator of the Freedom Air has gone on to create a newer cushion which he claims is even better, and got a very favorable review in one of the magazines recently. (I think it was MCN, but not positive.) I've not tried it however, and can't find a link at the momment.
 
I'm a fan of the bead ryder, sorry dont have anything to compare it to.
 
I got a set of bead riders to please the pillion. I like them and have added 100mi to mandatory stopping distance. Does the Butt Buffer allow air flow and a rain pooling buffer?
 
I have had a Butt Buffer and a Pro Pad (gel) for a number of years, tried it on several bikes including the ST. Bottom line, it just adds another layer to an already flawed shape, and can make it worse instead of better. I say go at least for the Spencer mod. If you like beads, same thing about going over a flawed shape, but it may help to get air movement.
 
I have a Corbin Dual Canyon - heated seat. It's firm as it is but any heating element installed makes it that much more firm. the Spencer-guy no longer "Spencerizes" heated seats because of that basic fact. Thus, my butt doesn't allow me to ride as long as I'd like but Spencer recommends an Alaskan Leather Butt Pad for extra cushioning and even has a discount code on his site to use at Alaskan Leather (maybe 10%, I forget now) so I bought one and it made the difference for me and easily added a couple hundred miles of monkey butt-free riding. I didn't have to have the seat turned on when I used the pad and it has also been commented that the pad will keep you cooler in hot conditions so it does both functions.
 
I just got a new Russell seat and while the early results are mixed, I am going to be patient through the break-in period. Cheap it is not. At close to $700 I say Yikes!

En route to the Russell seat I tried a number of things and surprisingly the cheapest seemed the best. Here goes:

1. The seat my (used) bike came with included a Spencer mod. I was able to (just barely) tolerate it on a 250 miles ride. I was squirming all over it by then, so don't misconstrue this as "it was comfy for 250 miles" 'cause it was not. But I finished the ride. I knew at this point that the seat needed help and started looking for a solution. My sense was that the seat's configuration was too narrow, tipped forward and was "unbreathable" because of the vinyl. That's a lot of problems to overcome.

2. A buddy loaned me his Air Hawk. At first I thought I liked it, but after endlessly fiddling with the level of air, I finally gave up and thanked him for loaning it to me. These things are really expensive...close to $200. If you are worried about "nickel and diming" your way to spending the equivalent of a custom seat, the Air Hawk makes a good place to start. I say: don't waste your money. With too much air, it felt like I was rolling around on a bubble and was very disconnected from the bike. Too little air and it just disappeared, offering no help at all.

3. Met a BMW rider up in the mountains who had a Bead Rider. Sat on his bike for 3 minutes and liked it, so I bought one. Not hideously expensive, but with the optional straps and shipping I spent over $60. And survey says? Not a bit of help...hard and doesn't change the flawed shape of the seat. Plus, I didn't like the sensation of "floating" around on the seat...the movement was unsettling to me, especially when riding twisty roads. Its in my closet now...all shiney and bright. Make me an offer.

4. Met a guy at a local MC hangout who was riding a Gold Wing. Discussions turned to seat torture and he pulled out his solution. It was a $20 seat pad made for a car that he bought at Walmart. In fact it was his second one and was worn out and tatered...usually a very good sign. It felt comfortable to me and I thought what the heck...Bought one and used it on every ride I took. I think it did two things...first, it offered reasonable padding and some air pockets under my rearend..which kept me out of direct contact with my vinyl seat cover and helped with cooling. Second, because it extended over the edges of my seat it effectively widened my seat. The extra width offered more support for my generously contoured bottom...which is one of the problems I have with the design of the stock (and Spencered) seats. Not a cure-all...but the best and cheapest help I found.

Now, the Walmart special didn't make my bike suitable for an Iron Butt ride...but maybe I'm not cut out for that anyway. But in terms of "most bang for the buck"...head on over to the automotive section of Walmart with a $20 in your fist.

Good luck.

Bob
 
+1 on the Walmart $20 auto seat pad. Itvwas recommended to me by another site member last year. I decided to give it a try, hey why not, it's $20! Since then I've put on 20k and still haven't found the need to seriously upgrade the stock seat. Don't get me wrong, I would love to try an expensive upgrade to the ST torture seat. But in the meantime I'll just keep wearing one of these out each year!
 
Alright, so I bought the seat pad from Walmart and initially it wasn't that bad. But here in the Dallas-Ft Worth area where the temperatures reach 100+ degrees, it still doesn't breathe so eventually it gets hot and uncomfortable. And while the pad stays put on the seat it also does not allow me slide around. It is a large pad and fits well on the pillion seat so as a passenger pad it may be OK. I may still look at the Bead Rider.
 
I'm using a BeadRider on an '03 Corbin seat that came with my first ST. The stock saddle was so bad I decided I'd put this strange colored Corbin on the gorgeous red ST that I'd bought and just put up with it. I really don't like the Corbin because it's so darn HARD but the step in the seat is in just the right spot. With the beadridere, I'd call it more bearable than comfy. I had an Airhawk that I used on a BMW K75RT saddle but with the step in the corbin seat, the airhawk was just too large. The one thing I didn't like about the Airhawk was this disconnected feeling I had riding with it. Like sitting way above the seat instead of on it. I got over it after a while but the feeling came right back when I tried the airhawk on the stock ST1300 seat. Both of these aids work to make the saddle just a bit more bearable..say about 50 more miles than doing without in terms of when the pain starts. From the look of various threads, pain is just a part of riding further than one tank at a time. Call me resigned.
 
Update to post #13: the weather has gotten chilly and the vinyl seat gets really cold so I am trying the Walmart pad again. Don't move around much in the saddle during winter rides and the saddle eventually warms up so at least one part of the body is reasonably comfortable.
 

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Put the beads over the walmart pad!!. I do this on the Goldwing, but more so. I have an AirHawk with a cut down Walmart pad inside with the AirHawk, and hen the beads over that. Sounds excessive, but with my bad back, hip, and sciatica, it makes mucho difference
 
I'm giving up my Freedom Air pad that was mentioned here earlier. I have moved on to other solutions. It was a huge help on my 4,200 mile trip this fall and got me through an Ironbutt as well. I used it every other tank and couldn't have done that mileage on my Corbin without it. It's just not the right solution for me.

Make me an offer. They are $178 new.
 
Hi All:

I like the Dox idea of a combination of ideas.

I borrowed a corbin seat and found it to be way too hard. Discomfort after 20 minutes of riding.

For the 4 corners ride (http://4corners.us) I bought 2 sheepskins, 2 beads, 2 airhawks and a Sargent for the ST. My son rode the ST, I was on the GL and two friends on Harleys.

One harley rider turned me on to the Airhawks, he settled on a sheepskin over his airhawk. The other harley rider switched off between beads and Airhawk, I used the beads and my son settled on the sheepskin over the Sargent seat.

When I ride the ST I like the sargent seat with the beads. I never thought the beads could add any comfort but a little air circulation goes a long way. I also felt the "Disconnected" feeling with the Airhawk. It was nice on the stock seat to give a little bit wider surface when adjusted correctly but does not add much to the Sargent seat.

This site is excellent for getting others opinions.

Eat Sleep Ride

Woodwork
 
I use the Alaska leather. It helps, does not cure. It seems, just keeping your butt off the vinyl makes you much more comfy. You don't get on a burning seat or a frozen seat.

Tom
 
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