ST1300 side stand maintenance/lubrication

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Has anyone done side stand cleaning and lubricating on the ST1300?
I tried to find any info and could not find anything on a search.

My bike is 2007 with over 160,xxx miles and has never had any side stand maintenance. Any pit falls or things to look out for?
The stand works but it looks awfully grubby and in need of new grease.

The service manual does not cover much on this subject. Just how to check and service the side stand switch.

In the lube chart (pg. 1-23) is states to use ep2 grease on the side stand pivot surfaces?
 
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I don't recall doing my side stand, but I did pull my center stand off. I used a waterproof brake grease because it was the only grease on my shelf that advertised being waterproof (are not all greases waterproof?). It's amazing how smoothly my cs worked after cleaning and greasing. I pulled it off to replace it with one that had an extended foot lever to aid putting it up on the stand.
 
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All I ever use is a smear of wheel bearing grease on the tab and pivot bolt.
 
There is quite alot of slop in my pivot boltt witht the spring still attached.-- this may be by design -- not sure -- but everything is tight and when I pushed in it had some give. If I putlled out the stand was solid..
Can someone please go out to there ST -- with it on the center stand and grab the side stand (in the down position)and push in and let me know what you get?

I got a video but don't know if I can post it up here ,, I will try.
I tried and cannot up load the video, said I don't have the right extension?

Without the springs attached I have probably 1/4 inch wobble from in to out on the bottom of the side stand-- with the springs in place I have no wobble but I can push it in slightly.
 
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ST-Traveler said:
There is quite alot of slop in my pivot boltt witht the spring still attached.-- this may be by design -- not sure -- but everything is tight and when I pushed in it had some give. If I putlled out the stand was solid..
Can someone please go out to there ST -- with it on the center stand and grab the side stand (in the down position)and push in and let me know what you get?

I got a video but don't know if I can post it up here ,, I will try.
I tried and cannot up load the video, said I don't have the right extension?

Without the springs attached I have probably 1/4 inch wobble from in to out on the bottom of the side stand-- with the springs in place I have no wobble but I can push it in slightly.
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I replaced mine at about 200,000 miles as it was getting slop in it.
 
ST-Traveler said:
There is quite alot of slop in my pivot boltt witht the spring still attached.-- this may be by design -- not sure -- but everything is tight and when I pushed in it had some give. If I putlled out the stand was solid..
Can someone please go out to there ST -- with it on the center stand and grab the side stand (in the down position)and push in and let me know what you get?

I got a video but don't know if I can post it up here ,, I will try.
I tried and cannot up load the video, said I don't have the right extension?

Without the springs attached I have probably 1/4 inch wobble from in to out on the bottom of the side stand-- with the springs in place I have no wobble but I can push it in slightly.
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Put your video on youtube , then post the link here.
 
970mike said:
I replaced mine at about 200,000 miles as it was getting slop in it.
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I'm wondering if some of that slop is by design because the bracket is hardened steel about 3/8th inch and the side stand looks like some kind of cast iron/steel that would not have any give to it and would not wear that much.
My bike is on the center stand 90 % of the time so not sure why it would be worn that much unless the slop is by design to allow grease and pivot etc...
 
Kevcules said:
Put your video on youtube , then post the link here.
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Here is a short video I put on youtube to show movement of the side stand with the springs removed. I do not get this movement with the springs attached.

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ST1300 side stand maintenance

This movement of the side stand is with the springs removed and the bike on the center stand.
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Here is a short video I put on youtube to show movement of the side stand with the springs removed. I do not get this movement with the springs attached.
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If you pull the bolt, you will see if the hole in either the stand or the bracket has been elongated by wear. I'd bet it's the bolt that shows the most wear, and that will be the cheapest to replace. Those springs are powerful, and they pull the sidestand in and against the pivot bolt so unless you can overcome spring tension, you will not feel the free play, which, of course, did not go away.

While you have things apart, since these are slow moving parts, moly paste is the lube of choice. Now we can weigh in on the best moly for this job.... :rofl1: Just make sure your moly is water proof. :rofl1::rofl1:
 
Here's some pics of the stand disassembled.

I cannot really see any hole elongation on either the stand or the bracket but there is quit a bit of wear on the bolt. Probably from no maintenance...:doh1:
 

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SMSW said:
I'd bet it's the bolt that shows the most wear,
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I bet you are correct-the bolt has a ridge in the middle that I can catch my finger nail on instead of being all smooth..
I am going to order a new pivot bolt and start with that. :think1:
If that bolt has the softer metal it definitely would wear faster.
 
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The pivot bolt gets worn and stretches, but so little that its hard to tell by looking at it.
While its never a bad thing to clean/paint/grease these points, a lot of folks think this is why the side stand stops "flipping" up by just touching it, when actually its the rubber sleeve that goes over the springs is what grabs and drags things. You'll find that spraying the inside of that, or applying some light grease, that your side stand will snap up really quick!
Another tip that may help, is taking a small screw driver and a handful of dimes, slip the dimes in between each coil, and this lengthens the spring and allows you to simply hang it in place.
Then all you have to do is take some needle nose pliers and pull the dimes back out, this saves you from scratching up all that nice paint you put on there.
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Igofar said:
The pivot bolt gets worn and stretches, but so little that its hard to tell by looking at it.
While its never a bad thing to clean/paint/grease these points, a lot of folks think this is why the side stand stops "flipping" up by just touching it, when actually its the rubber sleeve that goes over the springs is what grabs and drags things. You'll find that spraying the inside of that, or applying some light grease, that your side stand will snap up really quick!
Another tip that may help, is taking a small screw driver and a handful of dimes, slip the dimes in between each coil, and this lengthens the spring and allows you to simply hang it in place.
Then all you have to do is take some needle nose pliers and pull the dimes back out, this saves you from scratching up all that nice paint you put on there.
:WCP1:
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Thanks for the tips- so are you saying probably just replace the pivot bolt then?
My wife said to replace the entire assembly and not mess around?
What is your advice? Pivot bolt or everything? the hole thing including the springs and new bolts brackets and stand with springs is about $100.00
 
You’d have to inspect the bracket plate etc.
It’s common for them to start bending over the years. I would take the wife’s advice if you are not sure about what’s bent or not.
Do you mount/dismount with the bike on the stand?
 
Igofar said:
... its never a bad thing to clean/paint/grease these points...
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Over here free, unobstructed movement with instant, full retraction of the kickstand (once gently moved over the threshold) is subject of the annual MOT (mandatory safety inspection)...
The vehicle will fail MOT if the stand remains stuck halfway up... (or a faulty cut-off switch)
Background: you'll might crash in a LH turn if the stand hasn't retracted fully...
Hence the joint + parts get cleaned & lubed regularly.
 
A: Constantly amazed at how much more thorough the required inspections are over on that side of the pond. in my region all we usually get is lights, tires, and horn :)rolleyes:)

B: Also baffled by how many have said they have never touched their side stands. I have to lube mine a couple times a year or it won't retract. Yes it has a significant amount of wiggle and I try to be gentle with it.
 
pmatulew said:
A: Constantly amazed at how much more thorough the required inspections are over on that side of the pond. in my region all we usually get is lights, tires, and horn
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Well, you'd be amazed over the increasing numbers of folks refusing to know more about their vehicle as where to put the key in... yes, motorcyclists as well! :rolleyes:
The industry seems to have created the trend, or is at least enforcing it with proprietary systems actually blocking DIY duties (like required factory online ECU resets for brake fluid or oil changes...)
The blissful ignorance doesn't end on the technical side though, how to move with/in traffic has as well grown a forgotten art... :(
 
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