The NT1100 Thread

dduelin said:
Your reply would be more helpful if you could compare the heat compared to your previous or current rides that did not have heat like the ST1300. You have owned RTs... What is the NT like compared to those?
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I'd say the RT and NT are a wash. I've yet to experience the fan coming on in the NT, despite urban traffic in 95+ temperatures. It has a large radiator for a twin, so it is naturally going to be cooler, but it still gets hot at a traffic light. However, both versions of thed ST are the hottest bikes I've ever been on. I recall a ride in 2002 on I-15 East into Vegas. The air temp was 113, and the ST1100 roasted me. The heat from the tarmac seemed to funnel up through the frame; it was like a blast furnace. The STs are hot bikes due to their extensive use of plastic and frame, all of which heat up.

Where the NT excels is in its ability to move air around the bike effectively, thanks to its more modern aerodynamics and higher ground clearance.

The FJR was not as hot as the ST either; the Honda wears the crown in that department, but I've heard a Harley is just as hot.

So, the answer is not as hot as an ST, but still warm in summer.
 
BamaRider said:
I'd say the RT and NT are a wash. I've yet to experience the fan coming on in the NT, despite urban traffic in 95+ temperatures. It has a large radiator for a twin, so it is naturally going to be cooler, but it still gets hot at a traffic light. However, both versions of thed ST are the hottest bikes I've ever been on. I recall a ride in 2002 on I-15 East into Vegas. The air temp was 113, and the ST1100 roasted me. The heat from the tarmac seemed to funnel up through the frame; it was like a blast furnace. The STs are hot bikes due to their extensive use of plastic and frame, all of which heat up.

Where the NT excels is in its ability to move air around the bike effectively, thanks to its more modern aerodynamics and higher ground clearance.

The FJR was not as hot as the ST either; the Honda wears the crown in that department, but I've heard a Harley is just as hot.

So, the answer is not as hot as an ST, but still warm in summer.
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Thanks, that's what I'm looking for.
 
The hottest bike I ever owned was a 2002 Yamaha FZ1. At 80F it could be uncomfortable at lower speeds when the fans kicked on. The ST1300 throws some heat from the valve cover area that goes outside my shins. I notice the NT throwing heat only if I think about it. With high top work boots, it doesn’t call attention to itself up to the 90F I’ve seen so far. I always plan being home by 90.
 
billo said:
The hottest bike I ever owned was a 2002 Yamaha FZ1. At 80F it could be uncomfortable at lower speeds when the fans kicked on. The ST1300 throws some heat from the valve cover area that goes outside my shins. I notice the NT throwing heat only if I think about it. With high top work boots, it doesn’t call attention to itself up to the 90F I’ve seen so far. I always plan being home by 90.
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Interesting.

I had (2) FZ-1's a 2002 (silver motor) and a 2004 (black motor) and can't say I ever remember feeling the heat on them. One of my favorite all around bikes.

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It take a bit to get used to the DCT, It is different, and that is why one needs to have more than one main bike to ride. When my 75 year old arthritic left hand gets tired and needs a rest after riding my FJR then the NT is the bike to ride until the hand feels better. Again it is just a different feel. Of course 4 cylinders vs 2 cylinders, different vibs. If one has been riding ST11/13 or FJRs for ever then the NT will take a bit more time to adjust to. It is nice to have variety. In my ToyBox is a Inline 4, a V-twin, and a Parallel twin. all have different feel and vibs.

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ChucksKLRST said:
It take a bit to get used to the DCT, It is different, and that is why one needs to have more than one main bike to ride. When my 75 year old arthritic left hand gets tired and needs a rest after riding my FJR then the NT is the bike to ride until the hand feels better. Again it is just a different feel. Of course 4 cylinders vs 2 cylinders, different vibs. If one has been riding ST11/13 or FJRs for ever then the NT will take a bit more time to adjust to. It is nice to have variety. In my ToyBox is a Inline 4, a V-twin, and a Parallel twin. all have different feel and vibs.

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I've always had at least one manual and one DCT bike the last 10 years but I think I'll have just DCT in the garage soon enough.
 
ChucksKLRST said:
When my 75 year old arthritic left hand gets tired and needs a rest after riding my FJR then the NT is the bike to ride until the hand feels better.
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When I started riding after a long hiatus, I went to scooters. The scenes from Three Coins in a Fountain sold me on scooters. A lot of Burgman scooter riders extended their riding time by transitioning to one. But I got to thinking...I was still "young" in my 50s. My left hand was getting arthritis, and the docs told me I had arthritis in my hips. Soon, the Burgman would be the only choice I had. I decided to get the NT700V. In a few months, I realized the arthritis was no longer there.

Maybe you should keep the FJR for medicinal purposes?

Chris
 
Daboo said:
When I started riding after a long hiatus, I went to scooters. The scenes from Three Coins in a Fountain sold me on scooters. A lot of Burgman scooter riders extended their riding time by transitioning to one. But I got to thinking...I was still "young" in my 50s. My left hand was getting arthritis, and the docs told me I had arthritis in my hips. Soon, the Burgman would be the only choice I had. I decided to get the NT700V. In a few months, I realized the arthritis was no longer there.

Maybe you should keep the FJR for medicinal purposes?

Chris
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The FJR is not going away any time soon. Nor is my V-Strom 650.
 
OK folks those of you that have the NT1100 or a bike with the DCT, after all the ranting and raving about how great they are, (and I would agree for the most part,) let's see what we don't like about the the DCT or the NT1100. The bike cannot be 100% perfect. My biggest dislike, which I found out today, is when the DCT shifts from second down to first gear. My example : Touring mode, SII, riding tight switchbacks up hill in the corner. Bike is in second gear and the speed dictated a down shift to first. I found that the shift was abrupt and unsettle the bike a bit. Caught me by surprise that it even down shifted, so I paid attention to the next switchback and the shift was a bit abrupt and unsettling again. Now I have ridden the same switchback with my V- Strom, normal clutch and never downshifted to first. It just pulls thru the switchbacks in second just fine. If I did I could shift before the turn and ride thru and up shift as I came out of the turn. The DCT did not do that. It downshifted in the middle of the turn. I found the cure to this was put the DCT in manual when doing switchbacks. Any other dislikes about the DCT or the NT1100 that you owners have found.

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ChucksKLRST said:
OK folks those of you that have the NT1100 or a bike with the DCT, after all the ranting and raving about how great they are, (and I would agree for the most part,) let's see what we don't like about the the DCT or the NT1100. The bike cannot be 100% perfect. My biggest dislike, which I found out today, is when the DCT shifts from second down to first gear. My example : Touring mode, SII, riding tight switchbacks up hill in the corner. Bike is in second gear and the speed dictated a down shift to first. I found that the shift was abrupt and unsettle the bike a bit. Caught me by surprise that it even down shifted, so I paid attention to the next switchback and the shift was a bit abrupt and unsettling again. Now I have ridden the same switchback with my V- Strom, normal clutch and never downshifted to first. It just pulls thru the switchbacks in second just fine. If I did I could shift before the turn and ride thru and up shift as I came out of the turn. The DCT did not do that. It downshifted in the middle of the turn. I found the cure to this was put the DCT in manual when doing switchbacks. Any other dislikes about the DCT or the NT1100 that you owners have found.

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I've seen a lot of reviews of DCT and also BMWs ASA and it seems manual mode is best for the really fun stuff and the drive/auto mode is great for city/hwy/boring stuff... I won't be in the new-bike market for a long while but always try to be open-minded on the tech and how to use it.
 
ChucksKLRST said:
OK folks those of you that have the NT1100 or a bike with the DCT, after all the ranting and raving about how great they are, (and I would agree for the most part,) let's see what we don't like about the the DCT or the NT1100. The bike cannot be 100% perfect. My biggest dislike, which I found out today, is when the DCT shifts from second down to first gear. My example : Touring mode, SII, riding tight switchbacks up hill in the corner. Bike is in second gear and the speed dictated a down shift to first. I found that the shift was abrupt and unsettle the bike a bit. Caught me by surprise that it even down shifted, so I paid attention to the next switchback and the shift was a bit abrupt and unsettling again. Now I have ridden the same switchback with my V- Strom, normal clutch and never downshifted to first. It just pulls thru the switchbacks in second just fine. If I did I could shift before the turn and ride thru and up shift as I came out of the turn. The DCT did not do that. It downshifted in the middle of the turn. I found the cure to this was put the DCT in manual when doing switchbacks. Any other dislikes about the DCT or the NT1100 that you owners have found.

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Ok you could have downshifted before the turn just by hitting the downshift lever... OR you could have shifted it to sport mode if you are riding in areas like that and it would have held the gears longer...or like you said put it in manual mode (but if I wanted to shift I'd have bought a manual shift NC750)

I don't have any dislikes about my DCT 750, with regards to the trans (I don't like the 270 throb, it could use more power and better brakes). I think it's brilliant and I use standard mode 100% of the time, using the downshift button for passing and hills (up and down). We don't have any switchback uphill turns here in SW Ohio, but if we did that's what I would do, downshift before entering the tight switchback.
 
the Ferret said:
Ok you could have downshifted before the turn just by hitting the downshift lever... OR you could have shifted it to sport mode if you are riding in areas like that and it would have held the gears longer...or like you said put it in manual mode (but if I wanted to shift I'd have bought a manual shift NC750)

I don't have any dislikes about my DCT 750, with regards to the trans (I didlike the 270 throb, it could use more power and better brakes). I think it's brilliant and I use standard mode 100% of the time, using the downshift button for passing and hills (up and down). We don't have any switchback uphill turns here in SW Ohio, but if we did that's what I would do, downshift before entering the tight switchback.
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I was in SII and I figured it would pull thru the turn in second gear same as all my other bikes do. Now I know. Next time I ride those switchbacks I will try SIII and see how it does and see if it holds second gear thru the switchback instead of shifting down in the middle of the turn while the bike is leaned over.
 
Yea that was confusing me above because you said "Touring mode Sll", so I was thinking you were in Touring Mode (the least aggressive besides Rain Mode. The NT must be different than my 750 which has standard, sport, rain and a user mode (that you set up)

You can still punch the downshift button when you want though, right?
 
the Ferret said:
Yea that was confusing me above because you said "Touring mode Sll", so I was thinking you were in Touring Mode (the least aggressive besides Rain Mode. The NT must be different than my 750 which has standard, sport, rain and a user mode (that you set up)

You can still punch the downshift button when you want though, right?
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The NT Rider Modes are Tour, Urban, Rain , and two user modes to be set up by the rider. Yes one can over ride the higher gear and manually shift down, but then the bike will up shift when it senses that lower gear is no longer needed. IE: Passing, override and shift to 5th or 4th gear from 6th make the pass and then let off the throttle a bit and the bike will shift back up to the higher gears
 
ChucksKLRST said:
The NT Rider Modes are Tour, Urban, Rain , and two user modes to be set up by the rider. Yes one can over ride the higher gear and manually shift down, but then the bike will up shift when it senses that lower gear is no longer needed. IE: Passing, override and shift to 5th or 4th gear from 6th make the pass and then let off the throttle a bit and the bike will shift back up to the higher gears
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Sure, when it senses it can handle a taller gear it shifts into the taller gear, but I've always said I don't care what gear I'm in as long as I'm going as fast as I want to be going ie: there is no sense to me to being in say 5th at 60 mph when it will handle 6th at 60 mph. I'm still going 60 mph,.......and if I want extra acceleration, I punch it down a gear, or open the throttle wide open and let it punch itself down a gear. Does that make sense?
 
As other have stated - On my Africa Twin I use the Sport 2 or 3 most of the time and I override with the paddle shifters fairly often especially in the twisties. I rarely if ever use the manual mode because you can override the automatic any time you want and then let the automatic take over when you want to - it gives you total flexibility and control.

Question for the NT1100 owners - does the dct blip the throttle when you downshift using the paddles as my Africa Twin does?
 
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