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Last time j said that, i took a slap!
Time to rack and roll!
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This is a neat rack. Found the web page and see that you can also get one that allows you to mount a GIVI over the passenger seat vs. the usual rear mount.
They added 2 additional mounting points (6 vs. 4). Only caveat here would be to not overload the standard 4 points as the sub frame supporting this has a tendency to crack if overloaded.
They added 2 additional mounting points (6 vs. 4). Only caveat here would be to not overload the standard 4 points as the sub frame supporting this has a tendency to crack if overloaded.
Well my experience with them has not been great. I'm in negotiation to get my money back. The right rear mount does not line up with the hole in the tail section. It is off by 7mm. I can't open my right pannier as the cross piece intefers with the latch and prevents it from opening. Had to struggle to mount the front of the rack to the frame. The bolts supplied are too long. The latch for the top case is too far forward so the top box won't can't latch. The only way is to grind the holes back 5mm to reposition the latch so it allow the top box to lie flat. My friend in Manitoba also had issues with the latch for his GIVI top box, he also had to force it to match the mounting holes.
It's a great concept, Mine was probably built on a Friday.
It's a great concept, Mine was probably built on a Friday.
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All kidding aside it does look nice. Are the holes actually vent holes? Needed for welding tubing? Mounting holes for a topbox? Please keep us abreast of your install.
No they're for putting in rubber spacers so the top box doesn't rattle. Real pain to put them in too! I'm a bit pissed at the moment it's been a week of frustration with that thing!!!!!
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That stinks. I really dig the concept of being able to strap tent, chair or whatever above the saddle bags.
The concept is brilliant. I was in the process of making special dry bags to fit on the racks, but holding off for a bit.
It's also a challenge to put your panniers on the bike, you can't use the handle to help guide it to the rails, instead you have to support it from the bottom of the bag and slide it in. A trade off and I'm OK with that.
The other issue is the top box will not be horizontal like it is with a GIVI rack. the box will lean forward, whick can be good to keep the lid open when you're trying to find something.
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Now THAT's a rack ! I should have had a rack like that on my '71 XL-250 when I carried home a bale of hay . That rack was 1/4th the size of this one !This is a neat rack. Found the web page and see that you can also get one that allows you to mount a GIVI over the passenger seat vs. the usual rear mount.
They added 2 additional mounting points (6 vs. 4). Only caveat here would be to not overload the standard 4 points as the sub frame supporting this has a tendency to crack if overloaded.
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Yes, they are. Im gonna try lubing them w dish detergent.
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That is not good news. Thanks for the heads up!Well my experience with them has not been great. I'm in negotiation to get my money back. The right rear mount does not line up with the hole in the tail section. It is off by 7mm. I can't open my right pannier as the cross piece intefers with the latch and prevents it from opening. Had to struggle to mount the front of the rack to the frame. The bolts supplied are too long. The latch for the top case is too far forward so the top box won't can't latch. The only way is to grind the holes back 5mm to reposition the latch so it allow the top box to lie flat. My friend in Manitoba also had issues with the latch for his GIVI top box, he also had to force it to match the mounting holes.
It's a great concept, Mine was probably built on a Friday.
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I know it sounds silly but have you thought about taking some good measurements and take it to a local welder who can cut the tabs, realign everything and weld it back together? Sucks to have to spend more money on something that should have been good right out of the box.
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U can. The rack comes perfectly designed for drybags over the panniers
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I. Just looked at mine. Being the cheapscate that i am, id cut the metal cross straps off and install som sort of webbing or nylon strapping. U can move them wherever you want anf it probably, with a bit of thinking they could look really cool.
The rack cost me $360 Canadian shipping portion was $100. That’s a lot of coin. Yes and add an hour of a welders time and then have it powder coated again?
I can easily mark where the new positions of the bracket and cross members go and I have the old tail frame for reference.
We’ve been communicating via ebay for the past week, it’s been entertaining. I hope to have this resolved soon
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Mine was $213 us dollars. Got it in two weeks! I was shocked! The little givi ones were $90! So, i pulled the trigger!
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It's a great concept, Mine was probably built on a Friday.
More likely built on a Monday morning with hung over bleary eyed workers.
Bummer there are QA problems with it, as design is a great concept. Now that you have it maybe redrill or move brackets / stiffeners and then repaint with Tremclad or something cheaper than powder coating. If you're going to get some welding done pull the sub frame out and add some stiffening plate to the area where the bracket has a tendency to crack.
I've always thought that modifying the 1100 seat and building a similar type rack that effectively replaced the seat and was primarily mounted to the frame would be great as it would enable much larger and heavier loads lower down and closer to the center of the bike. Bike with a separate passenger seat (ST1300, FJR etc...) would be much easier to modify. Similar to the Corbin Smuggler, but much larger. Maybe a variation on the PC800 "trunk" type of storage system.
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Pretty interesting information here. Recently in preparation for my upcoming Smoky Mountains trip in May, I installed on the 2000 a rack that is designed to fit with the OEM backrest. After substantial attempts at getting it to fit (3 of 4 holes), I was ready to give up, then I realized I was just a few mm off from getting it to fit. I had to use different hardware than was with the rack (which I bought many years ago and never fitted to the bike), and I had to drill out one of the installation holes to accommodate that last bolt/ sleeve of the backrest. Finally got it on, and installed an LED to it as well (12 LED panel) that is both a running light as well as brake light. Feels good to get it done, but a real PIA to get it fitted.
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