Two new nt1100's just popped up for sale in San Diego.

ChucksKLRST said:
Just as I have said in post 14. Emissions and cost of manufacturing and can use the same motor across the product line.
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Now @Sadlesor knows that even Kevin and Ryan are in your camp!

Next he is going to complain about the lack of inspiration of the US 18 wheeler engine manufacturers all going to in-line 6.
 
I know very little about those big (used to be) diesel engines, but I've always wanted to shift through 21 gears and drive those rigs.
But not for a living.
And I'm always going to like that V-twin of the KTM 950, and some of those Ducatis (aka 916) will always look and sound sexy.
 
Kevin says:

Think about a parallel twin: half as many pistons, rods, bearings, valves, spark plugs, and coils. Half the number of cams and cam drives as in a V-twin. Parallel twins with 270-degree crankpin spacing sound just like vee motors,

Hey, a single only has 1/4th the number of parts, but who's screaming for a big single? NO ONE!

We choose the 270 parallel twin these days because that's about all we are offered these days. Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, BMW, Aprilia, Royal Enfield, Triumph, KTM, Husqvarna all offer the P Twins.

If the NT 1100 was a V-4 or an I-4 would it be more or less desirable? To me it would be more desirable.

Probably why this site has so many still riding quarter century old ST 1100s.

Even though I own a 270 P Twin and have put close to 60,000 trouble free miles on it in less than 4 years, that doesn't make it my favorite motor...by a long shot lol
 
Sadlsor said:
Many modern bikes seem to have lost any semblance of imagination, when it comes to the motor.
Parallel twin, parallel twin, parallel twin... indeed the argument can easily be made that bikes are becoming commodities.
"Nice choice of motorcycle, Mr. Customer. Now, would you like that in a parallel twin configuration, or do you prefer the parallel twin...?"
Where's the inline 4 today? Much less the V-four. OK, there are still some triples, but they're on the way out too.
I say Pfffttt.
Same-O, same-o. Big YAWN!
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There are still inline four sport tourers/crossovers available from Suzuki and Kawasaki. Yamaha and Triumph have inline threes, so there is some variety. Hopefully they'll stick around. I do agree with your general point that lack of choice is being caused by regulations. Using the same engine configuration across different market segments also allows the manufacturers to offer more types of bikes for a lower cost.
 
So, I walked out in the garage with my wife the other day and as she was looking at my three bikes, I said "not sure which one or ones that I want to trade if I like the new NT1100 that I have a deposit on" She in return with out any hesitation said "You have room in the garage for four bikes, keep them" Yes I do but it will be very tight.

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Sadlsor said:
Simple, really.
Park that Jeep outside. <G>
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Don't like to, Jeep has soft top and is open most of the late spring and summer. Of course we have afternoon showers from time to time. And when the jeep is outside the wife's car is in side. Town home complex with stupid parking rules.:(
 
RobbieAG said:
I do agree with your general point that lack of choice is being caused by regulations. Using the same engine configuration across different market segments also allows the manufacturers to offer more types of bikes for a lower cost.
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I suspect the regulations influence some characteristics of the engine, but manufacturing cost (especially across different models) rules the roost. Ultimately, the customer decides. Were we all to buy single cyl thumpers to the exclusion of other configurations, everyone would be offering those. BMW has adapted their design to regulations and included parallel twins in their lineup because this engine offers something their traditional model does not.
 
ChucksKLRST said:
So, I walked out in the garage with my wife the other day and as she was looking at my three bikes, I said "not sure which one or ones that I want to trade if I like the new NT1100 that I have a deposit on" She in return with out any hesitation said "You have room in the garage for four bikes, keep them"
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If you look for "keeper" in the dictionary, her picture should be there!
 
ChucksKLRST said:
Alright I need a through report on how it rides. How smooth is the motor etc. Enquiring minds need to know.
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With 40 on the clock, I can say the is handling super. There is a rumble to the motor felt slightly in the grips. The front end eats bumps, the rear needs a little softening. I’ll play with preload and tire pressure and see what happens.
 
CDNolddude said:
Was looking at one one the showroom the other day. Looks good. Not sure I could comfortably get a leg over it. Seat is high and not enough room for me to try.
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First dealer I stopped by had one coming in next week that was already sold and another one in two weeks he already had a deposit on.

Second dealer had just rolled one in today and there was already a taker for it, trading in his NC750X.

He was paying a few dollars over $14K for it, including a prep fee and an $800 destination charge (!), so no gouging on it except for the usual,

The bike feels very light compared to the ST.
 
Mine was on the floor from the afternoon before. I arrived just after opening this morning and a previous inquirer had already been contacted.
There Was a $1500 mark up. I stuck to my guns and got it otd for $15k, $13 cash and $2 for my trade - a 2006 Vstrom 650! The business owner had to ok the deal. Imagine my surprise when he did. I feel very fortunate. Love the bike.
 
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