Anyone on here every used the tribetex engine wear additive in their ST? If so, what were the results?
Use of TriboTEX additive for engine wear
- Thread starter GhenghisKen
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In looking at the TriboTex website this appears to be another WS2(tungsten disulfide) nano particle additive. Argonne Natl. Labs. did studies on this some years ago. It does protect gears very effectively. The question you should ask and find out is how it will effect a wet clutch such as an ST1300 has as it shares the transmission and engine oil. I have personally used WS2 particles in gearboxes and also as an additive in greases - I actually use WS2 grease on drive splines in place of moly as it protects splines much better than moly. NASA uses WS2 dry lubricants on mechanical devices on spacecraft as it will lubricate in vacuum environments where traditional lubes will off gas and disappear. There is a lot of hype on their website and they are careful not to name WS2 or Tungsten disulfide but only refer to magic unnamed carbon nano-particles. WS2 particles will fall out of suspension in the oil over time but will adhere to metal surfaces. WS2 spray coating is used on gears in high stress applications such as gearboxes and drives in racing applications.
Besides what @bdalameda said about the clutch a question you should ask is "why"?
You have a car engine in a two wheeled vehicle. That may not seem obvious, but our first car after getting married almost 52 years ago was a 66 VW Beetle. It had a 1300 cc engine and produced 50 horsepower. It managed to take the two of us from Seattle to Denver on our first assignment with all our possessions in it.
Your ST1300 weighs about a third of what that VW engine did with twice as much horsepower. It's loafing when you're riding it. You're certainly not stressing it. Unless you're planning on reaching 700,000 miles, you don't have much need to worry about wear.
But if you really want to lighten your wallet...PM me and I'll send you my address.
Chris
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I have 174k on the bike now (it is a 2008) and I was hoping to preserve it through to 500k.
@GhenghisKen - beware of "confirmation bias". (I may be using the wrong term). The product is sold on Amazon and has a lot of positive reviews. How long after they bought and used the product, did they write the review? Chances are it was within a couple weeks, maybe days. All that confirms is that it didn't blow up their engine. They just paid about $125 for a couple ounces of this stuff. Do you think they'd tell you they wasted their money? Not a chance. Their egos and pride are caught up in their decision to buy the product and of course they'll say they made the right choice.
You can see the same thing with other things we spend our money on. For instance, if you're thinking of buying a Honda ST1300 or a Triumph Trophy and ask on the ST-Owners forum which you should buy, what answer would you expect? "Oh, you should buy the Triumph." You'd only get that answer on the Triumph Trophy forum. The ST1300 owners will say to buy the ST, and the Triumph owners will say to buy the Triumph. Why? Because that was what they spent their money on. And they won't admit they made the wrong decision.
Here's a suggestion that won't cost you a dime and might save you a lot of money in the long run. Send a PM to @W0QNX. I think he has close to 400,000 miles on his ST. Ask him about this, and what he did for maintenance. I think you'll be surprised.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
FWIW, I owned a Suzuki Burgman 400 for years. I had every intention of riding that for a couple hundred thousand miles. I bought two of them and the total mileage was probably around 80K. I didn't think anything could be better than it. I'm on my 4th motorcycle since then and don't see myself ever going back.
Chris
They just paid about $125 for a couple ounces of this stuff. Do you think they'd tell you they wasted their money? Not a chance. Their egos and pride are caught up in their decision to buy the product and of course they'll say they made the right choice.You can see the same thing with other things we spend our money on. For instance, if you're thinking of buying a Honda ST1300 or a Triumph Trophy and ask on the ST-Owners forum which you should buy, what answer would you expect? "Oh, you should buy the Triumph." You'd only get that answer on the Triumph Trophy forum.
The ST1300 owners will say to buy the ST, and the Triumph owners will say to buy the Triumph. Why? Because that was what they spent their money on. And they won't admit they made the wrong decision.Here's a suggestion that won't cost you a dime and might save you a lot of money in the long run. Send a PM to @W0QNX. I think he has close to 400,000 miles on his ST. Ask him about this, and what he did for maintenance. I think you'll be surprised.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
FWIW, I owned a Suzuki Burgman 400 for years. I had every intention of riding that for a couple hundred thousand miles. I bought two of them and the total mileage was probably around 80K. I didn't think anything could be better than it. I'm on my 4th motorcycle since then and don't see myself ever going back.
Chris
unnecessary. Today's motor oils are already highly engineered with precise additive packages. Adding extra chemicals can throw off this delicate balance, potentially reducing lubrication, invalidating your warranty, or causing sludge. [1, 2, 3]
However, additives can be useful in specific situations:
- High-Mileage Vehicles: "Stop leak" additives can temporarily swell rubber seals to fix minor oil leaks until a proper mechanical repair can be performed.
- Wear Reduction: Ceramic or friction-modifying treatments (like Liqui Moly Cera Tec) can sometimes help reduce metal-on-metal friction during cold starts. [1, 2, 3]
The Verdict:
Before buying an additive, assess your needs. If your engine runs smoothly, rely on regular, scheduled oil changes using high-quality oil to maximize your engine's lifespan. If you are experiencing a specific mechanical issue, consult a trusted mechanic first rather than relying on a bottled "quick fix.
Has anyone worn out an ST1300 engine? I believe that good oil changed on time does not need any additives.
Most reviews are written and posted before the package wrapping scraps have hit the floor. You can pick up on the legitimacy of many reviews by the wording. 'I just opened my ####, and boy! is it &&&&&'. Or something similar.@GhenghisKen - beware of "confirmation bias". (I may be using the wrong term). The product is sold on Amazon and has a lot of positive reviews. How long after they bought and used the product, did they write the review? Chances are it was within a couple weeks, maybe days. All that confirms is that it didn't blow up their engine.
You can see the same thing with other things we spend our money on. For instance, if you're thinking of buying a Honda ST1300 or a Triumph Trophy and ask on the ST-Owners forum which you should buy, what answer would you expect? "Oh, you should buy the Triumph." You'd only get that answer on the Triumph Trophy forum.
Here's a suggestion that won't cost you a dime and might save you a lot of money in the long run. Send a PM to @W0QNX. I think he has close to 400,000 miles on his ST. Ask him about this, and what he did for maintenance. I think you'll be surprised.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
FWIW, I owned a Suzuki Burgman 400 for years. I had every intention of riding that for a couple hundred thousand miles. I bought two of them and the total mileage was probably around 80K. I didn't think anything could be better than it. I'm on my 4th motorcycle since then and don't see myself ever going back.
Chris