Which cleaners and greases etc required?

[Verve]

Hi

Need your help in selecting/finalising the cleaners and greases required to maintain the bike overall. Got my first ST1300 a few weeks ago so want to get it ready for summer. Doing some specific work shortly that includes engine oil change, oem break pads all around, clutch MSC rebuild, and brakes+clutch fluids.

Please advise on below and any additions for rest of the bike. May as well get everything in one go for long term.

1. Honda M-77 Moly Paste - for Final Drive/shaft splines
2. Lithium grease - for axle rods shafts
3. High temp silicone grease - for clutch push rod end going into the piston inner seal and brake calipers push pins
4. BTAS silicone + ceramic grease - for brake pads contact points
5. Brake cleaner - for cleaning calipers and pistons with nylon brush
6. Engine degreaser - for general clean when fairings are off. I have used dish soap water with brush for engines, followed by GT85. Not sure if same can be recommended for ST.
7. Loctite 222 for any specific bolts?
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Please also advise on your process of removing the old clutch MSC gasket and cleaning inside?

Many thanks.

 

[SMSW]

IIRC, Honda M-77 does not have the high percentage of moly disulphide required. Consensus here is Loctite 8012 is the way to go.
Standard lithium based grease is good for everything except where rubber is involved. Use silicone grease for that. The Honda Service manual tells you where moly grease should be used (driveshaft splines) and where moly paste should be used (rear wheel to final drive splines).
Any good high temp brake grease is good for the brake pads and contact points.
Brake cleaner is murder on rubber seals so use it sparingly on the calipers. You can wash the pads down w/ the stuff, but keep it away from rubber boots and seals.
I use anti seize on all sorts of bolts that might rust and freeze up - like muffler clamps (they live down under).

 

[chmotard]

5. Brake cleaner - for cleaning calipers and pistons with nylon brush

Brake cleaner is not recommended as it is too harsh on the piston seals. Ideally, clean with brake fluid and a soft brush (like a toothbrush).

 

[Verve]

Thank you @SMSW - Finally found it in the manual re splines. Have a scanned version so take a while to find things



Thanks @chmotard - I don't recall using any cleaners doing car brakes, just brushes and elbow grease. But it has been a long while since I tackled these jobs. Will avoid using brake cleaner in calipers.

 

[Gus1300]

Or a length of 5-50 cord with brake fluid on it then wrapped around each brake piston and pulled back and forth at various angles, ideally before pushing them back in to make room for new pads; it can sometimes get all the way around whereas a brush may not.

 

[dduelin]

IIRC, Honda M-77 does not have the high percentage of moly disulphide required. Consensus here is Loctite 8012 is the way to go.

Honda M-77 is still the Honda recommended paste for the drive splines. There are other moly pastes that work well but we know M-77 meets specifications. 77 differs from the superseded M60 in that the tube needs to be kneaded or the initial application may not be mixed properly.

For general cleaning purposes I like S100 Total Cleaner in a spray bottle.

 

[SMSW]

Honda M-77 is still the Honda recommended paste for the drive splines. There are other moly pastes that work well but we know M-77 meets specifications. 77 differs from the superseded M60 in that the tube needs to be kneaded or the initial application may not be mixed properly.

For general cleaning purposes I like S100 Total Cleaner in a spray bottle.

I get the M-77 an M-60 confused - esp since I don't own an ST any more and don't use moly paste. Thanks for the correction

 

[Verve]

Honda M-77 is still the Honda recommended paste for the drive splines. There are other moly pastes that work well but we know M-77 meets specifications. 77 differs from the superseded M60 in that the tube needs to be kneaded or the initial application may not be mixed properly.

For general cleaning purposes I like S100 Total Cleaner in a spray bottle.

Cheers for the kneading tip. Ordered M-77 75g tube. Btw, is it 5g on splines and 5g on flange or combined 5g? Refresh annually or based on mileage?

 

[chmotard]

Or a length of 5-50 cord with brake fluid on it then wrapped around each brake piston and pulled back and forth at various angles, ideally before pushing them back in to make room for new pads; it can sometimes get all the way around whereas a brush may not.

Very good , i do exactly the same job when the piston are very dirty.

 

[dduelin]

Cheers for the kneading tip. Ordered M-77 75g tube. Btw, is it 5g on splines and 5g on flange or combined 5g? Refresh annually or based on mileage?

How I did it was to use short bristle brush to apply a uniform light coat of paste to the engaging surfaces of the male driving spline and also to the surfaces of the female driven spline. Too much makes a mess inside the final gear case. It seemed to work as mine were still in excellent shape at 180,000 miles when I sold it.

 

[SMSW]

Cheers for the kneading tip. Ordered M-77 75g tube. Btw, is it 5g on splines and 5g on flange or combined 5g? Refresh annually or based on mileage?

The manual calls for 5 grams. Since it does not say 5 g on male and 5 on female assume its a total of 5. Regardless, the quantity is not critical as long as you get an even thin coat on the splines. Best brush I've found - tooth brush. Only downside is it makes your teeth a bit darker later.

 

[jrp]

FWIW, this is the moly paste I use.

 

[dwalby]

in the spirit of the forum:

item 8) milligram electronic balance for weighing 5.000g of moly paste prior to application.