Wind Noise In The Mic Solutions? Anyone?

devro

devro

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Yesterday I set up my fender bunny (wife) and myself with a set of Sena MH10 units.
I did this just for the intercom.
We rode about 400 miles yesterday and today.

I'm having problems with my wife's mic picking up a LOT of noise from the wind.
We tried positioning the mic to about 100 different places, none helped.

Oh, she wears a Shoei full face, don't know what model, is painted like a butterfly.

Anyone have any experience on how to quite down the wind noise in her mic?
Thicker foam around the mic?
Higher density foam?
Duct tape?
(Leaving her at home is not an option)

Thanks in advance,
devro
 
devro
The problem is not wind noise but low pressure caused by your windshield. It seems to manifest in the pillion position greater than operator position. There are several optional windshields that are available. I use a CeeBailey that I prefer to look thru, even this one does not eliminate all of the problem. Keep trying different combinations.
--Garry--
 
Thanks, I thought maybe that might be the root of the problem.

I have a Vstream on order.

I'm new to the ST so I'm feeling this thing out.
What about those Honda deflectors for the faring and the mirrors. Do they help?

I saw some clear plexiglas doo-dads that fit under the mirrors, suposed to greatly reduce the low pressure buffeting for the passenger.
Do you know anything about those things?

Thanks, hopefully the windshield will do the trick.
 
I was having a similar issues with my 6 rider inter-phone and my pillion.. What reduce, what sounds like wind noise, was the following:
1) remove the wind screen and locate the mic inlet port
2) Position the inlet port toward the chin guard not the mouth and reinstall the wind screen
3) reduce the gain, the higher you have the volume to listen , also increases the mic gain. Just bringing it down 1 step reduced the noise but audible volume was fine.

Enjoy
 
Matt: Where do you get a windsoc? I was listening to music yesterday with my face shield up and finally gave up and turned everything off. The only way I could quiet the mic was to hold it in my mouth.

(I know this sounds like a "dont do that (DUH)," but I've done it a lot with other helmets. Heck, I've seen mics on 3/4 helmets!)
 
I'm new to the ST so I'm feeling this thing out.
What about those Honda deflectors for the faring and the mirrors. Do they help?

I saw some clear plexiglas doo-dads that fit under the mirrors, suposed to greatly reduce the low pressure buffeting for the passenger.
Do you know anything about those things?

I have the fairing deflectors and the Cal-Sci "doo-dads" they help more in the rain. The Cal-Sci deflectors are not sold anymore but they could be homemade pretty easy. Keep a eye on the Ar. RTE's and you can see what I've got.
--Garry--
 
... sorry should have said. I have the Honda wind deflectors. I like them, but they didn't solve the mic problem. They do reduce wind on the rider and passenger, but mostly in the leg and torso area. A friend actually installed and then removed them- missed the wind.
 
I cut the pinky finger out of a really light pair of cloth gloves and slid it over the mic end and it took care of the wind problem for my wife mic.

Jay
 
My Sena mics came with foam rubber covers. It that what a wind sock is?
If so than I guess that's not going to solve my particular problem.

And those Amazon folks want $8 to ship the little things!! Jeez!
 
FWIW, here's an excerpt from "Wind Noise" of what Ed from Edsets suggests:

So, the microphone itself can be protected by a simple measure...and this cuts down on a lot of the buffeting noise that drives us crazy... Place a very tight toy baloon or finger from an exam glove over the microphone element, it has to be stretched tightly to work...and any flapping will only make it worse...so once done, the wind gusts of buffeting will not be able to directly reach the diaphragm of your microphone, and will be stopped by the tight drum-head-like covering you've placed there. However, the vibrations from sound will pass through relatively intact since they have a different character from the wind noise: Noise is mostly a series of closely spaced 'spikes', but speech is a continuously varying pressure wave or vibration, that transmits through the cover like the sound of a passing car passes through a window while the wind cannot.
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YMMV, etc....
 
For my autocom mic, I went to electronics section of Wallyworld or Radio Shack ( don't remember ) and picked up some foam replacements for head/ear sets ... cost about $2.
Put over mic and a snip here and there, with a micro tie wrap.... all fixed.
 
I want the furry one!!

fursock.jpg

Sorry, just got excited. Answer to the OP...yes the Sena comes already with a foam windsock. Maybe the furry one would work? Just kidding...
 
Don't have Sena but have Scala Rider. They also have wind socks. I don't think they help much in cutting down the wind noise problem. Even with shield down on helmet you still can have the problems.
 
I had the same problem with my Sena. Noise from the Pillion mic. I have a large Calsci screen with the under mirror deflectors. Reduced the buffeting on her but the noise is still there. (screen and deflectors were 2 years prior to the Sena) I placed the extra foam cover that comes with the Sena over the mic and that helped a lot. Was a bit of a stetch to fit though. In fact, unless there was a cross wind or sudden blast from a truck or somesuch, there were no more issues. What really worked was the chin/neck guard fabric cover that came with the HJC helmet she has. Completely stopped the noise. I think, unless she has an open face helmet, there may be clearance issues if you use a larger sock. My RF1100 has loads of chin room but the HJC does not.

I really do like the Sena unit though. Tons of volume, great clarity and perfect Bluetooth connectivity.

Mike
 
UNTMatt said:
Interesting as the windsocks completely eliminated the issues we had w/the Autocom mic's. Guess the effectiveness is dependent on the type/brand/position of the mic which would make sense. That being said, I would have thunk that they would have at least made a noticeable difference.
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Well with the helmet shield all the way down it's not too bad. On a windy day the mic will still key on when you get hit by a wind blast. But open the shield and you beep,beep,beep.
 
Well this is a age old problem,
1. first of all have your wife make sure the mike is on her lips (swallow the mike)

2. Adjust the vox setting on the unit

3. Block the windflow under the helmet (have her put her hand under the helmet and along her neck on each side to see where the wind is coming form) sometimes a helmet wind deflector will work wonders......

3. Turn off the vent in the front of the helmet

4. If this does not help (I do not know what the sena mike looks like) if the mike is very small and the end is not much larger than the boom look at J&M headsets--they have a simalar mike and they make foam boom tips for them. If the mike looks more like a lolly pop call me and I can send you some autocom windsocks and I have a new mod that I am doing on all systems that I sell....

it is outlined here http://kieth.smugmug.com/Electronics/Microphone-Modifications/14096324_ziAnJ#1038759800_xqQFb

Call me at 918-446-2245 if you need help Kieth
 
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