Windows 11, version 25H2 - experience?

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Of those brave and hardy souls who have taken the plunge and made the leap to Win 11 v. 25H2, I ask: what has your experience been? How did the upgrade process go? I'm on the previous version.

Reading the list of changes (I won't go so far as to style them "improvements" or "upgrades" without some feedback) I see very little by way of value-to-me. I couldn't be any less interested in CoPilot, for example, nor in the zillion other things they admit to having done.

My experience so far (since July 2025) has been rather less than satisfactory, as the network / internet performance degrades rapidly if the machine is allowed to enter Sleep mode. The only way forward that I'd found is a complete restart, so I've gotten into the habit of powering the system off if I'm going to be away from it for more than a couple hours. Is the new version any less prone to that irritating behavior? The things I've read and tried (manually and explicitly configure the DNS gateways) made no difference at all.

Incidentally and secondarily, even in its "powered off" state, it seems to spontaneously power itself back up smetime overnight because in the morning when I come back to it it's sleeping rather than completely shut off. I haven't looked at the event logs to see if I can spot the culprit but I assume that MickeySoft has decided "Off" doesn't really mean "OFF" and chooses to restart the system to run update checks, scan my browsing history, rearrange my sock drawer, or whatever the hell else they see fit to do without telling me or giving me a chance to intervene. Pretty soon, OFF is going to be backstopped by plugging the thing into a switchable power strip (which will in turn be plugged into the UPS, where the CPU is currently plugged in, so that I can deprive the computer of any and all access to 110 volt power from the house mains unless and until I choose to grant it.

Does 2025H2 make the self power-up "feature" any more transparent, discoverable, or controllable? This is also a behavior I've not bothered to research, so the answer may be out there waiting for me to come asking.

TIA for any and all input as it relates to the upgrade. I don't need to know that Unix, iOS, Solaris, or whatever other o/s you may be using doesn't have those problems. I'm well aware of the cost / price of being in bed with MickeySoft but it's where I am and that's not going to change.
 
I have the general 'rule' after 50+ years in the IT business that I do not jump to a new 'release'.
I wait until it has been out there about 6 months or after it has had a couple of updates (which usually fix the major bugs).
Microsoft is well known for allowing the users to debug their new releases so I'd rather not get into that cycle. ;)
 
Running 25H2 on most of our corporate employee systems, and there are no glaring global issues to note.

As for your power up issue, check your bios/uefi settings to see if there's a power on setting.
Check your device manager to disable wake capabilities for external devices & your LAN card.
Check your scheduled tasks to see if there are things set to run late at night, and if they are set to turn on or wake your computer to do them.
Also check the settings for "define power buttons and turn on password protection." Your power button may be set to "sleep" or "hibernate" vs shut down.

You may not want the add features, or the changes, that 25H2 offers, but it also helps with bug and vulnerabilities fixes, and lays out the new framework for future updates (from my understanding.) Eventually you'll have to bite the bullet if you stay the MS path.
 
I did a recent 11 upgrade for security purposes. There are a lot of apps I had to turn off and it was hard to find certain setting. I use google search engine but even when setting it as a the default click on google and bing search engine shows. Many post about the same problem. Once that was solved it's similar , imo to 10.
 
...My experience so far (since July 2025) has been rather less than satisfactory, as the network / internet performance degrades rapidly if the machine is allowed to enter Sleep mode. The only way forward that I'd found is a complete restart, so I've gotten into the habit of powering the system off if I'm going to be away from it for more than a couple hours. Is the new version any less prone to that irritating behavior? The things I've read and tried (manually and explicitly configure the DNS gateways) made no difference at all.

... it seems to spontaneously power itself back up ...
I find the same thing regarding network reliability...in our Win 11 machines and my Android smart-phone. Fortunately, they are so fast at rebooting, that it is just a mild irritant.

Mine has never spontaneously powered up. Maybe you could try shooting your machine with a silver bullet? Or put garlic around your neck. Being this close to Halloween, it just might help.

I have the general 'rule' after 50+ years in the IT business that I do not jump to a new 'release'.
I wait until it has been out there about 6 months or after it has had a couple of updates (which usually fix the major bugs)...
Yeah, I used to feel that way many years ago. I haven't had a problem in an update though in about 10 years or so.

You may not want the add features, or the changes, that 25H2 offers, but it also helps with bug and vulnerabilities fixes, and lays out the new framework for future updates (from my understanding.) Eventually you'll have to bite the bullet if you stay the MS path.
"it also helps with bug and vulnerabilities fixes, and lays out the new framework for future updates" ...precisely why I keep the updates installed.

Chris
 
Yeah, I used to feel that way many years ago. I haven't had a problem in an update though in about 10 years or so.
Maybe it's the silver bullet or garlic that you use ... ;)
 
Personally, zero experience with Win11 - still running Win10. A couple (3-4?) of important points from our perspective.

a) No need to upgrade yet. Win10 is fine.

b) I submitted our ONLY Windows machine (a laptop) for the Extended Security Updates - good until Oct 2026!! *It's FREE*. So, our Win10 laptop is good for another year.

c) That Win laptop is primarily used for historical reasons. We do back it up every month, even though rarely used.

Linux user since 1994. Unix before that. (Retired software engineer - 98% professional life with U/L/inux). Our 3 primary home machines run Linux (plus the Win laptop).

I think (b) is an important option for folks who don't want to jump to Win11 yet.
 
I just got the additional year for win10...cost me zero
you don't have to update to 11 ever. Your computer may not be able to download 11, the processor may not be able to handle 11.
It's also an excellent way to take older hardware and extend it's useful life. Linux doesn't have the hardware overhead of Windows.
I think the first year is free but after that there is a fee.
 
you don't have to update to 11 ever. Your computer may not be able to download 11, the processor may not be able to handle 11.

I think the first year is free but after that there is a fee.
If your machine has enough memory (8 GB is about right) and the processor speed it can be upgraded to Win 11 though it does not meet the 'TPM' processor requirement. Thanks to TPadden (he found it) there is a program call RUFUS that creates an installable version. I've done it on bunches of older machines and it works fine. It is based on a Microsoft provided patch that allows it to work.
 
I ended up jumping off the Win 10 OS when my wife wanted my monitor for her laptop. When I bought a new monitor...a nice 34 inch curved monitor on sale, it was my dream monitor...but my Win10 laptop couldn't work with it.

So I bought a new laptop. I mean, what's a guy to do?

Chris
 
Does 2025H2 make the self power-up "feature" any more transparent, discoverable, or controllable? This is also a behavior I've not bothered to research, so the answer may be out there waiting for me to come asking.
The machine at work (Lenovo ThinkStation, i7-10700 @ 2.9GHz, 16GB) already runs with the Win11pro v25H2... no issues to detect...
And the [update and shut down] not working properly (I'm always running the update procedure at the end of a workday), seems typical for Win11 and was already aparent on the previous build versions... (so I came in the next moring and find the PC powered on)... might be a BIOS/setting issue, or even purposely done by the external IT company for whatever they're tinkering, and I won't fumble around much on office equipment... that's delicate...
(I'm already most likely the only person here doing updates anyway... including the command prompt [winget upgrade] sequence... :unsure: )

Also sticking with 10, with the extra year's grace.
Ditto on my private machines (the Toshiba NB510 travel netbook even still runs on Win7pro_32), I'm in no mood on throwing money away for new laptops over that marketing scam while I'm have perfectly running (not cheap) ones right here that absolutely fulfill my needs... (Toshiba Satelitte Pro & Dell Latitude Rugged, both with SSD and max RAM installed)...
I did the registration change from local to MS account to get the "free updates till 2026" (will have to do the same the the GF's machines) with strong aversions... :cautious:
They all draw and collect way too much data for my taste...
 
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Whenever I want to see faster booting and less background operations, I fire up my old Win ME desktop. I keep it around for some software, that won’t run on later versions.

I miss the old Win 3.1 machine that we had at work, that would still run a DOS program to program some older robots. That machine would boot Windows and load MS Word in under 30 seconds.

John
 
Whenever I want to see faster booting and less background operations, ......
One reason that whenever I am shopping for a new computer I prefer to buy directly from Micrsosoft. Computers sold directly by Micrsosoft generally had much less third-party bloat-ware on them that all wants to launch at boot up, sometimes regardless of how often that is disabled. Even if they don't launch at start-up they consume resources and sometimes can't be removed. The computers from Microsoft could be purchased with just about nothing on them but what is required for the operating system, Windows, and Microsoft's browser. I would install whatever software I wanted and nothing else leaving me with a much cleaner and leaner system that runs faster.

Having written all of that I will also state that I haven't bought a new computer in quite a while so I would not be surprised if this has changed now as well as everybody is trying to monetize everything. Microsoft probably has followed suit so has put all kinds of crap on their computers now as well. I'll find out next time I go shopping I guess.
 
Microsoft probably has followed suit so has put all kinds of crap on their computers now as well

Yes, it's called Windows 11.

Actually, my experiences with everything after the Windows 2000 botchery have been more positive than otherwise. I skipped Vista altogether, and am generally careful not to install add-ons, especially third party browser add-ons, which I've long since categorized as malware in open sight.

So far, my low tech strategy of inserting a power strip with a cutoff switch in the AC supply line has successfully defeated the spontaneous power-ups, as I was certain it would.
 
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