Upt'North.
LED law change.
- Thread starter Upt' North
- Start date
- Joined
- Apr 22, 2011
- Messages
- 1,146
- Age
- 68
- Location
- Camarillo, Ca
- Bike
- 2006 ST1300A
- 2024 Miles
- 002552
Wow that is awesome! Only took 6 years to get it figured out. Good for you across the pond!
That's good. I have LED H4's in both bikes. Will save me putting normal halogens in for the test and then changing back on return home 
Congratulations to subjects of the MOT. As I read that - so long as HID or LED...
...they will be passed. Very good! The wheels of bureaucracy often turn slowly but the most important part is not how long it took but that it's "here".
That will still DQ (no not that DQ) any HID or LED bulbs that don't comply with the above requirement. That's a good thing. A sympathetic examiner might pass them anyway. Maybe not so good. But still – congratulations!
As I read that - so long as HID or LED......they will be passed. Very good! The wheels of bureaucracy often turn slowly but the most important part is not how long it took but that it's "here".
That will still DQ (no not that DQ) any HID or LED bulbs that don't comply with the above requirement. That's a good thing. A sympathetic examiner might pass them anyway. Maybe not so good. But still – congratulations!
OP
OP
Curious if you are going to change them up now, or if not will you when they come up for replacement?
OP
OP
I actually bought a new pack of Ultra Life's last spring ready for the Autumn 2020 EU jaunt that never happened. So I have still got them to fit yet. It'll probably be the time after that.
I still think although they will be legal in theory they may struggle through the MOT because of pattern, I'll discuss it with my tester in August.
Upt'North.
Andrew Shadow
Site Supporter
If I have understood the multitude of posts @spiderman302 has made about proper beam pattern and what goes in to achieving it to enable using an LED bulb in a headlamp reflector designed for a H4/9003 halogen bulb, the F2 LED that he fine-tuned has the same beam pattern as an H4-9003 halogen bulb does it not? If so, it should meet all of the beam pattern requirements wouldn't it?
OP
OP
The proof will be in the puddin at test time. I've never seen a tester skip this part of the test, even the one's I knew quite well. But if the LED works as per the H4 there shouldn't be a problem. But of course all LED's are not equal, some are more equal than others.
Upt'North.
Andrew Shadow
Site Supporter
Upt'North;
Part of the reason why I bought the G6 LED's- the first ones that spiderman302 fine tuned and recommended. If I were to purchase another set, the only ones that I would consider would be the F2 for the same reason- he has done all of the research and knows that this is the best LED bulb beam pattern currently available for retrofit in to a reflector designed for a halogen bulb.
I think the catch here will be the "headlight aim." This doesn't preclude an LED or HID just based on the type of bulb. A poorly aimed bulb will fail, regardless of the type.
What the 19th March notice does not tell our non UK readers is that LED or HID modified headlights has only been a FAIL since start of this year. Mine passed OK last March. Just as well my MoT tester is still on furlough or I would have been doing a LED out / MoT test / LED in last week.
He is back to work next week and we have already had a chat about the latest DVSA U-turn.
He is back to work next week and we have already had a chat about the latest DVSA U-turn.