Alternator core failure

[Andrew Shadow]

What should I do for the battery? its OEM ordered from Honda service. I won't be using it obviously for a little while. Any suggestions? Battery tender or just leave it in box until I get ready this spring?

As you said OEM I am assuming that it is a Yuasa AGM. Yuasa states the following;

Battery Maintenance & Storage

A battery only requires a little monthly maintenance to perform perfectly. Keep the battery charged to 100%, recharging when the lights dim, the starter sounds weak, or the battery hasn’t been used in more than two weeks. Follow the simple battery storage check list below once a month:

AGM Batteries

• Check voltage every 3 months (or more frequently if stored at higher temperatures as high temperatures cause higher self-discharge rates)
• Periodically:
  • Keep top of battery clean
  • Check cables, clamps, and case for obvious damage or loose connections
  • Clean terminals and connectors as necessary
• Recharge battery if voltage is below 12.4V.
• Once activated, the battery is permanently sealed and must never be opened. There is no need to add water to AGM batteries. Adding water to AGM batteries will result in irreparable damage to the battery or the vehicle.

 

[ST-Traveler]

As you said OEM I am assuming that it is a Yuasa AGM. Yuasa states the following;

Battery Maintenance & Storage

A battery only requires a little monthly maintenance to perform perfectly. Keep the battery charged to 100%, recharging when the lights dim, the starter sounds weak, or the battery hasn’t been used in more than two weeks. Follow the simple battery storage check list below once a month:

AGM Batteries

• Check voltage every 3 months (or more frequently if stored at higher temperatures as high temperatures cause higher self-discharge rates)
• Periodically:
  • Keep top of battery clean
  • Check cables, clamps, and case for obvious damage or loose connections
  • Clean terminals and connectors as necessary
• Recharge battery if voltage is below 12.4V.
• Once activated, the battery is permanently sealed and must never be opened. There is no need to add water to AGM batteries. Adding water to AGM batteries will result in irreparable damage to the battery or the vehicle.

Yes but it is still in the box right now. should I take it out and put it on a charger? What if Honda did not sell me the battery? it would still be on the warehouse shelf right?

 

[ST-Traveler]

 

[ST-Traveler]

 

[ST-Traveler]

I think there was a mouse in there, I found a shell of a peanut?

 

[Andrew Shadow]

Yes but it is still in the box right now. should I take it out and put it on a charger? What if Honda did not sell me the battery? it would still be on the warehouse shelf right?

Batteries that are kept in storage in a retailer's warehouse beyond a time threshold specified by by the manufacturer are supposed to be maintained in the same manner. Whether or nor that ever happens is another story. I would put it on a smart charger to ensure that it is charged as closely as it will get to 100% and then follow the manufacturer's instructions.

 

[ST-Traveler]

Batteries that are kept in storage in a retailer's warehouse beyond a time threshold specified by by the manufacturer are supposed to be maintained in the same manner. Whether or nor that ever happens is another story. I would put it on a smart charger to ensure that it is charged as closely as it will get to 100% and then follow the manufacturer's instructions.

Got it, thanks will check the voltage here shortly and see what it is.

 

[ST-Traveler]

Here is the pics I took of the new OEM battery with voltage meter readings. Do you think I should just put the battery tender on it?

 

[ST-Traveler]

various pics of project so far.

 

[Andrew Shadow]

I would put a smart charger on it until the smart charger reports that it has reached full charge. Then it would be better if you could find a cool place to store it. A cool place being below 60 deg. F such as a basement or a garage where the heat is kept set low. Then follow the manufacturer's recommendations until you install it in the bike.

 

[SupraSabre]

I would be looking for some dead bodies in that muck!

Looks like you have a handle on it!

 

[Larry Fine]

I wonder if they're OEM shells?

 

[ST-Traveler]

What do you guys recommend for a thread sealant for the engine oil pressure switch threads when I put it back in the block

 

[ST-Traveler]

I would put a smart charger on it until the smart charger reports that it has reached full charge. Then it would be better if you could find a cool place to store it. A cool place being below 60 deg. F such as a basement or a garage where the heat is kept set low. Then follow the manufacturer's recommendations until you install it in the bike.

I put it on a battery tender junior at 750 mili-amps and it charged and is now on green light.

 

[ST-Traveler]

Note: I have yet to find a replacement o-ring for the oil cooler (outer ring - Never have seen one in the diagrams? ) Anyone else find one?)

I see what you mean, the service manual calls for a "new" O-ring upon reassembly but the part fiche does not show one, odd....

 

[ST-Traveler]

id agree. Mine has one in there too. I didn't know if it was new or old (i bought the bike used).

My wife said before I started to tear the bike apart in the garage that our cat has been getting up around the gas tank and acting funny like there was a mouse in there.???

 

[CYYJ]

What do you guys recommend for a thread sealant for the engine oil pressure switch threads when I put it back in the block

I think that any RTV (room temperature vulcanization) sealant that is rated for high temperatures and exposure to oil would be suitable. Do read the "fine print" on the instructions - many of these sealants suggest that you tighten the object only finger-tight, wait one hour, and then tighten the object to final torque after one hour. This ensures that excessive amounts of sealant are not squeezed out of the assembly.

Michael

 

[SupraSabre]

I see what you mean, the service manual calls for a "new" O-ring upon reassembly but the part fiche does not show one, odd....

Correct, I have yet to find a parts fiche with one listed.

 

[Andrew Shadow]

Note: I have yet to find a replacement o-ring for the oil cooler (outer ring - Never have seen one in the diagrams? ) Anyone else find one?)

I didn't find a listing but do you have one that you could measure? Is it around 62 mm in diameter? If so two oil cooler o-rings that are used on many Honda motorcycles are P/N 91316-PE7-730 and 91354-MCT-003. They don't show as fitment for ST1300 but that might just be because this o-ring is not listed in the ST1300 parts fiche so it doesn't cross reference. Might get lucky and one might fit.

 

[dduelin]

I see what you mean, the service manual calls for a "new" O-ring upon reassembly but the part fiche does not show one, odd....

I wouldn't worry about removing the oil cooler as the hoses are easily changed without disturbing the oil cooler. A part of 45 or 90 needle nose pliers are essential and come from the underside.