https://mobiloil.com/en/gear-lubricants/mobil-1-synthetic-gear-lube-lsI guess my question was why no 'hypoid' in the wording on the Mobil 1, as I assume our gears are hypoid gears. Other gear oils are referred to as hypoid.
Darn, I guess I missed the just for fun part.I'm just messing with you Dean, the Amsoil gear oil I used 8 years ago doesn't say hypoid either, nothing to be concerned about. I change mine about once every 10 years, whether it needs it or not.
It truly amazes me that after Honda spends a lot of money on research and development, and puts the results of that research and development in your owners manual people still want to do whatever they want.I had a problem with the synthetic leaking past the seal and spitting oil all over the side of my tire . I went back to the standard hypoid gear oil and haven't had any problems since .
I would like to see that difference measured.Using thinner oils for both engine and final drive in my 2013 ST1300A yields a more responsive bike. I can confirm being able to feel the difference now having used different types of viscosity ranges. SAE 10W30 in engine and SAE 80 GL-5 in rear diff gives more fun compared to the more-viscous-than-necessary oils Mark referred to earlier.
Kees
I'd hazard a guess that more people on this forum use synthetic gear oil in the final drive than conventional, and we have one report of it somehow leaking past the seals even though its the same viscosity rating as the conventional oil. BTW, I'd guess Honda spent 5 minutes writing "use 80W hypoid oil" in the owner's manual, and that was probably the extent of their "spends a lot of money on research and development" for this particular topic. Just about anything on wheels other than commercial trucks use this type of gear oil in the final drive.It truly amazes me that after Honda spends a lot of money on research and development, and puts the results of that research and development in your owners manual people still want to do whatever they want.
In Honda's case I would assume they use the same stuff they sell us in their race bikes. You know moto gp, World Super Bike, etc. So race proven?I'd hazard a guess that more people on this forum use synthetic gear oil in the final drive than conventional, and we have one report of it somehow leaking past the seals even though its the same viscosity rating as the conventional oil. BTW, I'd guess Honda spent 5 minutes writing "use 80W hypoid oil" in the owner's manual, and that was probably the extent of their "spends a lot of money on research and development" for this particular topic. Just about anything on wheels other than commercial trucks use this type of gear oil in the final drive.
those bikes are chain driven, no gear oil required.In Honda's case I would assume they use the same stuff they sell us in their race bikes. You know moto gp, World Super Bike, etc. So race proven?
I know no Gear lube but would they use Pro Honda Chain lube? a long time ago I use to see the decals on Honda race bikes saying"Pro Honda Oil and Chemicals".those bikes are chain driven, no gear oil required.
Let's look at it the other way around. How many oil related failures have we encountered with the ST1100? Whether you use the same oil as the race team or not isn't going to make any difference at all. On the other hand, race bikes blow up engines all the time, so maybe they should switch to a different oil every time that happens because its the oil's fault? I think you're greatly exaggerating the importance of one type of motor oil vs. another.I dunno....To me if they use it in their 24 hour endurance races at higher rpm than our bikes will ever see I guess its ok to use in my lowly st1100