Nah that would be the mystery foam in the new and improved tool "kit"
My truck has a float like that in the clutch master.
My truck has a float like that in the clutch master.
If that were the case they would not be in the parts list would they??I still believe the factory assembly person who's job it was to remove them and fill the m/c up with fluid before shipping them out.
That's not how it works. When you squeeze the brake or clutch lever, the master cylinder pulls fluid out of the reservoir and is used to expand the system's volume enough to push out the pistons in the brake caliper or slave cylinder. If the system were completely sealed and inelastic (like a glass jar), sucking fluid out of the reservoir would require pulling a vacuum on the air in the reservoir. That would consume some of the energy you're applying to the lever that would be better spent doing braking. The diaphragm is flexible so that when the system pulls in fluid, it pulls in along with it, keeping the amount of air in the reservoir constant. (Ideally, you want no air at all, but that's not practical.) When fluid is returned, the diaphragm relaxes.I wonder......could the mystery part be used to keep the diaphram from being sucked down into the master cylinder? ... Perhaps the foam floating on the surface of the fluid would provide a flat surface against the rubber and hold it in place?
Overfill it past the fill mark and fluid will leak out.Yes, I agree with all of that. But that diaphragm forms a pretty damn good seal against the air and the moisture. It is pressed against the sides by that plastic cap and that is screwed down firmly by the reservoir plate. If air and moisture can get in through that, I would expect fluid to be able to get out, and I've never seen any sign of that.
I checked for 2007, and the diagram is the same as the one Mellow linked to. However, in the parts list for the '07, there isn't a part #25 shown (even though the diagram shows it); it only goes to #23. Something changed in '08.It's called a float - and part of the system, item 25.
http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model_years/1581-honda-2008-st1300a/assemblies/19541-front-brake-master-cylinder
Yet more fuel, that someone, somewhere, just messed up the microphish? And why no P models?I checked for 2007, and the diagram is the same as the one Mellow linked to. However, in the parts list for the '07, there isn't a part #25 shown (even though the diagram shows it); it only goes to #23. Something changed in '08.
I would assume if it was overfilled, the diaphragm would push fluid out as you buttoned up the reservoir.Overfill it past the fill mark and fluid will leak out.
I think this idea has much merit. Mainly because I mentioned the same thing to someone saying maybe it's to prevent cavitation. (Hyperbole)Or maybe something to stop a half empty reservoir from splashing fluid about, risking exposure of the hole in the bottom to the air in the top.
Hm. That would seem to displace most if not all air, in a slightly inelegant manner.It forced fluid out the edges because the extra thickness took up space at the correct fill line.
Depends on how full you fill it... if you fill it to the very top level then yes, but is you just fill a little past the fill mark - maybe half way between the fill mark and the top of the reservoir, then the extra fluid is pushed out of the very small holes Blrfl spoke of... that happened to me when I first did my brake fluild on one of my wings.I would assume if it was overfilled, the diaphragm would push fluid out as you buttoned up the reservoir.
The float was only in the front M/C, not the rear or clutch M/C, on my '10 ST. The service manager at Scott Powersports said the float was added in '08. He didn't off a reason why.I wonder - does the rear brake reservoir have such a float ? Or the clutch lever reservoir ?
The police model is based on the '05, which had the older part. There may be stock-on-hand reasons for using it, as earlier STs were produced in much larger quantities than later ones. It could also be that one of their larger customers had a bolt-on farkle that wasn't compatible with the GL assembly.But again, if it were important, why would they leave it out on all of the ST1300AP Police models?
According to the fiche, that shouldn't be there. Even on '08s and later, the clutch reservoir doesn't have a float.I have an 06 w/o ABS and it was present in both master cylinders - clutch and brake. It tastes like packing foam