You know, I've always wondered if Harley problems were caused primarily by people that just didn't know what they were doing, whereas there was really nothing wrong with the machine to begin with.
That is the CVO model with some engine mods, factory custom paint, and extra chrome. The basic Electra Glide is about $24,500 MSRP. Still steep but not quite Lexus territory. Think of it as a Lexus is basically a CVO Toyota.Ok, I was intrigued so I just went to the HD site. **** does that really say $35,999!!! I bought a Lexus for less than that!
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/2010_Motorcycles/2010_motorcycles.html?locale=en_US&camp_id=16&source_cd=SEM_NewModels&_cr=ppc|msn|RETENTION|harley-davidson electra glide#/model/flhtcuse5
Again, if it does it for you than get it. :yes: No bashing here, I just have sticker shock... Thats 20k more than my ST13 cost!
The airbag wing cost $29,000 and that's a stock bike. Lets just face it they all cost a lot now.Ok, I was intrigued so I just went to the HD site. **** does that really say $35,999!!! I bought a Lexus for less than that!
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/2010_Motorcycles/2010_motorcycles.html?locale=en_US&camp_id=16&source_cd=SEM_NewModels&_cr=ppc|msn|RETENTION|harley-davidson electra glide#/model/flhtcuse5
Again, if it does it for you than get it. :yes: No bashing here, I just have sticker shock... Thats 20k more than my ST13 cost!
My thoughts also.
Not asking anybody to pic what I rideAsking strangers to pick your bike is akin to having strangers pick your wife. Since you have a wife and those people have a proven track record of success, why don't you run this question by them?
That's for the CVO. The Ultra Limited is The 103 inch (I corrected my original post) and 10K less. I would expect it to be as reliable as the ST or a Wing and maybe that's setting the bar too high.Ok, I was intrigued so I just went to the HD site. **** does that really say $35,999!!! I bought a Lexus for less than that!
http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/2010_Motorcycles/2010_motorcycles.html?locale=en_US&camp_id=16&source_cd=SEM_NewModels&_cr=ppc|msn|RETENTION|harley-davidson electra glide#/model/flhtcuse5
Again, if it does it for you than get it. :yes: No bashing here, I just have sticker shock... Thats 20k more than my ST13 cost!
The Victory Cross Roads and Cross Tour could be worth a look, if you're not into the Vision's design. I saw these two up close at a show last month, looked like nice bikes.
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Something to keep in mind with Victory (or any manufacturer) is the way you're going to use the bike. For a bike that will be used for touring, you want to make sure there's a good dealer network out there. Having a local dealer is fine but what happens when you're out on the road, several hundred or thousand miles from them. As great and reliable as even Honda is, every bike has the potential to break down unexpectedly. At that time, if you find yourself out in the middle of nowhere, the ability to find a dealer is very important.
I think this might be an unfair statement. The Screaming Eagle models have been coming with the 110's for quite some time and there haven't been many problems. Most of the 103+ upgrade problems are coming from guys buying the standard 96/98 and bumping the motor. Even with the dealer doing the work, we see those upgrades back in. For the money, it's best to just buy the larger motor bike (CVO's) ready to go. They come with the factory 2 year warranty, where if you upgrade, you get all of 30-90 days parts and labor warranty....if that. (Depends on state and dealership)
One really cool thing with Harley is the ability to send your motor in and they will completely inspect and rebuild it/replace any worn parts for a flat fee. This is great if you haven't done any work to the motor as Harley will return the motor to 100% stock. But still......I think it would be cool to have the ability to send the ST motor in (at the 300k mark
) and have the factory Honda guys go through the whole thing.
You are right on the 103 to 110 CI the 110 is a factory motor. Still generates lots of heat and I'm not sure that they will last. It used to blow my mind to see those guys buy a new bike to have the top of the motor torn off and put a new one on. The ones I ran with didn't seem much faster for spending all that money.I think this might be an unfair statement. The Screaming Eagle models have been coming with the 110's for quite some time and there haven't been many problems. Most of the 103+ upgrade problems are coming from guys buying the standard 96/98 and bumping the motor. Even with the dealer doing the work, we see those upgrades back in. For the money, it's best to just buy the larger motor bike (CVO's) ready to go. They come with the factory 2 year warranty, where if you upgrade, you get all of 30-90 days parts and labor warranty....if that. (Depends on state and dealership)
One really cool thing with Harley is the ability to send your motor in and they will completely inspect and rebuild it/replace any worn parts for a flat fee. This is great if you haven't done any work to the motor as Harley will return the motor to 100% stock. But still......I think it would be cool to have the ability to send the ST motor in (at the 300k mark
IIRC, all of the CVO's come with oil coolers standard to help with cooling. As far as speed, I don't think they're much faster on the top end but they definitely have more grunt in the turns.
Admittedly, I've yet to deal with a factory rebuild but I like the idea of it.......provided the factory doesn't screw it up as in your case.
