so it should have a cover???From memory....and only for the double jointed small handed human varietal.....Pilot Screw Wrench Access.
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so it should have a cover???From memory....and only for the double jointed small handed human varietal.....Pilot Screw Wrench Access.
Upt.
Yes.so it should have a cover???
I'd be checking all the 1100's out. ABS or not. Don't let a "jewel" get away because it's not a ABS model.BIKES FOR SALE NEAR ME
ST1100
In Age Order
YEAR 1997 70K miles £1,000
YEAR 1998 39K miles £3,000
YEAR 1999 55K miles £1,000 (non ABS bike)
YEAR 1999 91K miles £1,500
YEAR 2000 27K miles £2,000
YEAR 2000 65K miles £2,000 (non ABS bike)
YEAR 2001 120K miles £800 (non ABS bike)
YEAR 2001 46K miles £1,500
YEAR 2002 31K miles £2,250 (non ABS bike)
in Cost Order
YEAR 1997 70K miles £1,000
YEAR 1999 55K miles £1,000 (non ABS bike)
YEAR 1999 46K miles £1,500
YEAR 2001 91K miles £1,500
YEAR 2000 27K miles £2,000
YEAR 2000 65K miles £2,000 (non ABS bike)
YEAR 2000 65K miles £2,000 (non ABS bike)
YEAR 2002 31K miles £2,250 (non ABS bike)
YEAR 1998 39K miles £3,000
ST1300
in Age Order
YEAR 2002 67k miles £2,500
YEAR 2003 52K miles £2,000 (white ex plod bike)
YEAR 2003 76K miles £2,500
YEAR 2003 74K miles £3,000
YEAR 2004 50K miles £2,500
YEAR 2005 37K miles £2,700
YEAR 2006 18K miles £4,000
YEAR 2007 32K miles £3,000
YEAR 2007 46K miles £3,000
YEAR 2010 74K miles £3,250
What most folks don't know is that the braking (not the ABS part) is so much improved with the ABSII models.I think the linked brakes are just as important as the ABS and i think you need an ABSII bike to get the linked brakes I have found one I like BUT the owner is playing silly buggers just now and not replying to me the alternative to this ST1100 with ABSII is the ex police ST 1300 sadly in white and i have been quoted £3,000 to repaint it this make the total cost of this (repainted to a sexy colour) bike just too silly for words
Yes i got that info after some digging, so for me it has to be a ST1100 with ABSII OR an ST1300 very sadly ATM I cannot move forward with the ST1100 near me as the owner is not responding to my messages GRRRRRRRRR!!!What most folks don't know is that the braking (not the ABS part) is so much improved with the ABSII models.
Their brakes are as good as the ST1300 brakes.
Me too BUT INVISIBLE DISC's DON'T photograph well, not even my NIKON FFDSLR D700/D800 will be able to see and photograph that disc :-( I had the same issue when my yacht was surveyed the clown reported a problem with the PORT ENGINE I DID NOT HAVE a CATAMARAN and the ONE engine was on the centreline of our Bennie 461. Checking the ST1100 parts catalogue, R/H Rear Discs are UNOBTAINABLE NO STOCK ;-) Looks like the SMC is needing a good clean {OUCH SWINE OF A JOB with fun bleeding the system} and the brake system having a good flush out and new fluid put in and then properly bled :-(. FUN and GAMES ahead :-(TWIN REAR DISCS on a ST1100?
I'd sure like to see a picture of that configuration.
Well, you didn't tell me they were invisible - you have to have a special camera for that!Me too BUT INVISIBLE DISC's DON'T photograph well, not even my NIKON FFDSLR D700/D800 will be able to see and photograph that disc :-( I had the same issue when my yacht was surveyed the clown reported a problem with the PORT ENGINE I DID NOT HAVE a CATAMARAN and the ONE engine was on the centreline of our Bennie 461. Checking the ST1100 parts catalogue, R/H Rear Discs are UNOBTAINABLE NO STOCK ;-) Looks like the SMC is needing a good clean {OUCH SWINE OF A JOB with fun bleeding the system} and the brake system having a good flush out and new fluid put in and then properly bled :-(. FUN and GAMES ahead :-(
WELL HOW DID the MOT INSPECTOR FIND IT!!!!???Well, you didn't tell me they were invisible - you have to have a special camera for that!
You need to go and ride a non ABS ST1100. You will find the brakes are not inferior but quite equal to the task of hauling down your bike from speed. At least that's been my experience.https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/browser/manufacturer/honda/bike/st1100a-pan-european/year/2000/country/england/colour/all-colours (lots of nice diagrams here)
WOW just priced up the PARTS ONLY for a total ABSII overhaul (minus the brake pipes as the bike I am going to look at has HEL braided hoses) OUCH!!! a quick £1,800, this does include all the seals for the three calipers and Honda Pads and the repair kits for the three master cylinders and three new discs. The discs alone are £750 for the three so if i can skip replacing all of them {however I think the back disc is going to have to be replaced as it had an MOT advisory at the last test {WELL ONLY THE NEARSIDE REAR BRAKE DISC!!!}} SO it is around a quick £1,000 just to make the brakes work properly (for the last 4 years and 10,000 miles when MOT'd this bike has had advisories for binding front and rear brakes)
Local Honda Dealership says FOUR HOURS work to totally overhaul the brakes. I have not seen their full priced estimate yet, but I would imagine that will cost about £350 for labour alone
Obviously IF I do the work myself there maybe some significant savings, the three caliper repair kits are ONLY £100 and the three master cylinder repair kits are around £350, :-( but then I will still need lots of consumables and tools for sure a good bleeding kit and I think I would want to overhaul the secondary master cylinder {SMC} as it probably is what is causing the problem here BUT then it may only be full of CRUD and sticking on its pivot {TO BE DISCOVERED} {probably do an ultrasound cleaning job on it, IF I have to overhaul it, that should I hope, clean out any brake fluid crud in the small holes}
OUCH lotsa work ahead and a NON ABS bike begins to look rather cheap, AND much easier to maintain {but with inferior brakes {and no ABS}} OR this could/would be a great reason for negotiation of a hopefully BIG price reduction
Obviously these are Genuine Honda parts prices and for the discs EBC discs are much cheaper, about £420.00 for the three so all in all the whole overhaul could be under £1,000 if I don't use genuine Honda discs, still a significant post purchase expenditure.
FUN and GAMES Ahead
He obviously had the special camera I was talking about!WELL HOW DID the MOT INSPECTOR FIND IT!!!!???
I rode an ST1100 about 20 years ago, I was looking to get another one of my 'old bikes' a Honda 400 FOUR BUT somehow got diverted (a really nice 400Four is £5,000 to £7,000 now) into looking at a nice Pan Euro, maybe to go touring Europe and Scandinavia and of course the west coast of Scotland and the Outer HebridesYou need to go and ride a non ABS ST1100. You will find the brakes are not inferior but quite equal to the task of hauling down your bike from speed. At least that's been my experience.
I think you've answered the question you asked already? Cost and downtime.I rode an ST1100 about 20 years ago, I was looking to get another one of my 'old bikes' a Honda 400 FOUR BUT somehow got diverted (a really nice 400Four is £5,000 to £7,000 now) into looking at a nice Pan Euro, maybe to go touring Europe and Scandinavia and of course the west coast of Scotland and the Outer Hebrides
Tomorrow I will go look at this 2001 bike and then probably go look at a 1999 Non ABS bike, I still have a hankering for a nice ST1300 but have not as yet managed to go look at the one that is nearest to me. I do not remember anything bad about the ST1100 apart from the saddle height, and I can fix that two ways, one with a lower OEM saddle and two by wearing the Daytona boots.
Coming from the Honda 400 Four to two Honda VFR750 G models on which I did a total nut and bolt restoration on, the Ducati M696 was a lumpy bumpy thing at low revs around town, and you needed to be in one of the lower gears all the time, and with Termingoni UNsilencers that was not quiet progress. So being really a four cylinder motorcyclist the ST1100 and ST1300 appeal a lot
BUT if I can have better brakes, coupled brakes and ABS then why not go for a more modern braking system hoping of course that I never need to call on its performance.
Are you saying that EBC pads are good in a NON ABS bike and in an ABS bike BUT NOT in a ABSII bike???The non ABS 11's stop just fine with the oem pads in. But it's your call. It's essential to change the rear fluid every year or so.
And the SMC will probably need service or replacement. More cost!
It adds up.
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