Weather Resistant Point And Shoot Camera

increasing said:
I was very interested in photography 25 years ago and spent my time with a SLR camera, but my interest has waned and today I only use my phone, which is always with me (iPhone), and I take a lot of pictures compared to before, which is preferable.
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Yeah... we're getting lazy...
Bullitt/CAT S61 phone is drop-, shock- and waterproof, so quite outdoorsy ... (plus features a FLIR cam for various diagnostics...)
The old IXUS 60 is still my favorite "sidearm", the D-350 a tad bulky on the bike, but good for macro or any nighttime tricks...

But I still kinda condemn digital cams... the old 35mm felt quite superior when it came to nature/panorama scenes, way less sensitive to haze, while the digital (DLR, compact or phone) always show that "white curtain"... (nah, won't do post production edits either, so don't bug me with *.raw... aim and shoot...)
 
ST1100Y said:
the old 35mm felt quite superior when it came to nature/panorama scenes, way less sensitive to haze, while the digital (DLR, compact or phone) always show that "white curtain"
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Sometimes that's the point of the shot, as for instance on our aerial approach to Istanbul last January as we were on our way to Laos:
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and our departure from Bangkok the following day:, still on our way:P1070486.png

That second photo was taken through the terminal window; I'd estimate the plane was perhaps 800 meters away. The air was so filthy it's amazing the people in the control tower could see what was happening on the ground.
 
Depending on usage, it's hard to beat the latest generation cameras on phones. It's often said that the best camera is the one you have with you. I frequently have one or two cameras with me at any given time, one fairly high end, rugged, weather resitant, etc, yet I will still reach in my pocket for the phone for a quick shot or three. A good case for the phone, preferably one you can build out, and you can also shoot respectable video (didn't you start a YouTube channel?). ProRes is quite nice.

For reference, I'm a retired pro who still has tens of thousands of dollars of analog and digital still and video cameras for all kinds of applications. I generally hold onto my phones for many years too and tend to change them only when they have taken a leap in imaging tech. My $0.03
 
Phones are great picture takers - BUT I take a lot of on the go while moving. I am not going to stick my phone out in the wind with NO tether to keep from loosing it. I opt to have a camera around my neck to get that on the go pic. This thread has gotten me interested in a more weather resistant cameras. The one I use has gotten damp and took a while to dry out and it looked as it was dead.
 
My Cannon is has seen better day. Used my phone for a while but seeing the screen in bright sun sucks and at times pictures looked hazy. Olympus tg series, $ 500 and up, not, saw an add for a waterproof Minolta(thought it was a good name) and it had mixed to bad reviews. Google waterproof camera and many off brands come up at amazon. Many in the $100 price range have great reviews and all the features of hi priced brands. So it might be worth a shot, besides you can add a 3 year warranty.
 
Kevin_56 said:
Phones are great picture takers - BUT I take a lot of on the go while moving. I am not going to stick my phone out in the wind with NO tether to keep from loosing it. I opt to have a camera around my neck to get that on the go pic. This thread has gotten me interested in a more weather resistant cameras. The one I use has gotten damp and took a while to dry out and it looked as it was dead.
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A Sena 10C Bluetooth headset might be your answer. I've been using one for years now to take many of the pictures I post.

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Chris
 
ibike2havefun said:
and our departure from Bangkok the following day:, still on our way:
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ibike2havefun said:
That second photo was taken through the terminal window; I'd estimate the plane was perhaps 800 meters away. The air was so filthy it's amazing the people in the control tower could see what was happening on the ground.
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I was in Thailand about the same time as you or maybe a week behind you I think. One benefit of the smog was that the Bangkok public transit was free for all users to encourage people to not use their personal vehicles. Made getting around cheap for us. The smog was terrible though. I can't imagine living in those conditions on a regular basis. Made for some nice sunsets though.
 
gunsmoker said:
I guess what I'm looking for is a camera that is
drawn one-handed from a holster,
shaped like a pistol,
is aimed through mechanical sights like a pistol,
and takes a picture every time you pull the trigger!
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I have a Canon Powershot that I used for a while. When the pictures I took with my phone were significantly better, I stopped using it. FYI, I don't take pictures on the go.
 
Daboo said:
A Sena 10C Bluetooth headset might be your answer. I've been using one for years now to take many of the pictures I post.

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If quality isn't a primary concern, these do work relatively well as long as you keep in mind it's a comm device first and imaging device second. If quality is important, you may find that the latest GoPro or DJI Osmo Action cameras can easily be helmet mounted and remote triggers are available so that you don't have to handle the camera directly. And when new models are released, the outgoing model is usually heavily discounted as is the case with the DJI Osmo Action 5. Both are weather resistant and waterproof down to a few meters, further if you get an inexpensive underwater housing.
 
Daboo said:
I've got a Canon Powershot laying around here too. The Panasonic Lumix is what I used to take pics on trips till I bought a smart phone. The 12x optical zoom worked well. The Canon Powershot was a simple point-n-shoot, but my FIL took some fantastic pics with it...till he also got a smart phone.
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Actually my exact duo of digicams: Canon S95 and Lumix. The S95 is near-DSLR quality in compact form, so adjustable. Love that one. The Lumix is more basic but good enough for the tank bag. I prefer the S95 pix to my iPhone. Something a little more organic about the results. Pleasing in a way that’s hard to explain. Probably just that I’m old.
 
:) Go Pros and others like them make a good alternative to the Sena. The Sena 50C (about the 4th generation of the 10C) gives you 4K video at 30 fps. Video may not be what UP wanted, but short videos of the scene will give him the ability to pull one frame that looks the best for what he wants. I like the Sena solution because it combines both a BT headset with the camera. There's less sticking out from my helmet.

If we go back to UP's original post, he's looking for something he can take pictures of with one hand while riding down the road. We morphed into looking for something with a handle that would provide a better grip. The Sena 10C will give the ability to take the pictures without worrying about dropping the camera or taking your hands off the handlebars for more than a second.

DesmoRonin said:
If quality isn't a primary concern,...
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And that comment above is important. If you want quality, you'll pull off the road and use your smart phone or SLR. You won't be taking pics at 70 mph with one hand trying to find the On button and splitting your concentration. When I got my first Sena 10C years ago, I tried to record everything. It didn't take long to realize most people didn't care. On one of my threads with pics of Artist Point, it was viewed 1000 times...and only 3 people thought it was worth making a comment on. It becomes a case of diminishing returns.

Chris
 
Daboo said:
:) Go Pros and others like them make a good alternative to the Sena. The Sena 50C (about the 4th generation of the 10C) gives you 4K video at 30 fps. Video may not be what UP wanted, but short videos of the scene will give him the ability to pull one frame that looks the best for what he wants. I like the Sena solution because it combines both a BT headset with the camera. There's less sticking out from my helmet.

If we go back to UP's original post, he's looking for something he can take pictures of with one hand while riding down the road. We morphed into looking for something with a handle that would provide a better grip. The Sena 10C will give the ability to take the pictures without worrying about dropping the camera or taking your hands off the handlebars for more than a second.


And that comment above is important. If you want quality, you'll pull off the road and use your smart phone or SLR. You won't be taking pics at 70 mph with one hand trying to find the On button and splitting your concentration. When I got my first Sena 10C years ago, I tried to record everything. It didn't take long to realize most people didn't care. On one of my threads with pics of Artist Point, it was viewed 1000 times...and only 3 people thought it was worth making a comment on. It becomes a case of diminishing returns.

Chris
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Like minds... #cheers

That's where I was going... UP could chin mount the GoPro/DJI and trigger the shutter from the handlebar... look at the object of interest, and click. GoPro now shoots 5.3k video (new Insta 8K) so punching in (they all have a relatively wide FOV) would still yield a nice result if he were to use a frame grab from video. In stills mode, 27MP gives a lot of room to work with even with a wide shot. If he were to use it for his YT videos, it would be easier too for audio.

My son was sponsored by Sena for a while and had access to all of the latest and greatest. He still chin-mounted an action cam for moto vlogging, and B-roll. Now he is sponsored by Cardo but his camera setup hasn't changed much. You are right, most people don't care, especially today. But it also could make for an interesting clip of the OH SH!T expression of the deer next time he has an encounter... heaven forbid he should have another one though. A lot of the kids use the action cams as a dashcam of sorts in the event they have an urban encounter. Quality is quite good.
 
DesmoRonin said:
A lot of the kids use the action cams as a dashcam of sorts in the event they have an urban encounter.
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Possibly more thread drift than desired to go down this bunny trail. I used one of the first Sena 10C cameras for a dash cam. The problem though is it only records in the direction your head is pointing...and if you were looking right and the other vehicle slammed into you from the left...you'd capture nothing. Plus, there was no rear camera.

Chris
 
Daboo said:
Possibly more thread drift than desired to go down this bunny trail. I used one of the first Sena 10C cameras for a dash cam. The problem though is it only records in the direction your head is pointing...and if you were looking right and the other vehicle slammed into you from the left...you'd capture nothing. Plus, there was no rear camera.

Chris
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That could be a problem indeed. The GoPro Hero 13 has a 177 degree FOV -- seems to cover most situations. The increasing popularity of the Insta360 (essentially 360 degree FOV) more or less negates the need for a rear facing camera.

Back on topic, they all seem to have decent price drops around Black Friday/Cyber Monday which might align with UP's other criteria ;)
 
I already have a GoPro Hero13. ;)
I have been shooting with a hand held camera on the go for many years (www.unclephil.us).
I hang the camera around my neck with a ST-Owners.Com lanyard and use either hand depending on the focus point.
FWIW, I have 2 OM System TG-7 red cameras on the way to the Holler. :biggrin:
Not cheap but they had a ton of really good reviews from users.
 
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