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That is why Honda Cross Tourer is off of my shopping list.
2012 Triumph Tiger Explorer
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That is why Honda Cross Tourer is off of my shopping list.
Bones
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I do.
If they did the same thing with weight on the Cross Trouer as they did on the Tenere, I wouldn't be too concerned about it. Feels so much lighter than it looks or says on paper.
Besides, for a bike that is doing 'mostly' touring, you don't want it to be too light.. if you do, you need a different bike... if you want a light off road bike, none of these will suffice, get a different bike..
I'll be curious to see what the price point is for the Triumph. If they can keep it around 14k the have a hit and are doing what Kawasaki did with the Concours, a more affordable feature-rich product.
Besides, for a bike that is doing 'mostly' touring, you don't want it to be too light.. if you do, you need a different bike... if you want a light off road bike, none of these will suffice, get a different bike..
I'll be curious to see what the price point is for the Triumph. If they can keep it around 14k the have a hit and are doing what Kawasaki did with the Concours, a more affordable feature-rich product.
Point well taken, but it is not a "light off road bike" that most of us are looking for. Personally, after doing a bit of research, I had decided that the Super Tenere would be the best choice for me. However, because my Hondas have always treated me well over the years, I wanted to wait until EICMA to see what the final version of the Cross Tourer would be. No matter how much lighter it may feel than it looks, it is still 50+ pounds heavier than the Super Tenere and Triumph Tiger, and 100+ heavier than the 1200GS. To me, that is significant, and disappointing. Perhaps someday I may regret the decision, but for now I have joined dm_mg in crossing it off my shopping list.
Dinkie Diesel
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Well, there's a lot to be said about weight. I don't think any of the above mentioned bikes are meant for serious off-roading including the GS. 500 lbs. hopping over logs, power sliding in the dirt, climbing rocky slopes is going to be a handful. On the flip side, speeding down the motorway on a 500 pounder feels a lot different than it does on my old ST13 pig and I'm not talking about an improvement necessarily. One such such example I'll cite is comparing an RT to my ST. When I test rode the RT I felt like I was on a dirt bike in terms of it's light feeling compared to my ST. I'm not saying it was bad but it was different not having all that heft to "cruise" down the motorway.
Bones
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More details: http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/11/tech-brief-2012-triumph-tiger-explorer/
The Tiger 1200 Explorer is listed on Triumph's US site now, too:
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/motorcycles/range/adventure/10280
The Tiger 1200 Explorer is listed on Triumph's US site now, too:
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/motorcycles/range/adventure/10280
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It sucks being 5' 8" if you ride motorcycles. I found this in the specifications:
. Seat Height 837mm/32.9in - 857mm/33.7in
Even the lower seat height puts me just out of reach of being able to flat foot it. Oh well, I certainly don't need another bike but it would be nice to have the option. Mo' bikes is Mo' betta is my philosophy!
Don't worry about that too much... the Tenere is listed at 33.26 or 34.25 in and with the seat in the low position I feel more comfortable than the ST when my feet are on the ground.. part of that is the narrower seat and part of that is the lower weight, just feels better. Also, the bike drops a couple inches - or feels like it - as soon as you sit on it...It sucks being 5' 8" if you ride motorcycles. I found this in the specifications:
. Seat Height 837mm/32.9in - 857mm/33.7in
Even the lower seat height puts me just out of reach of being able to flat foot it. Oh well, I certainly don't need another bike but it would be nice to have the option. Mo' bikes is Mo' betta is my philosophy!
Bones
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Interesting... the MotoDaily story says "the tube-steel frame allows a reasonable 31.6 to 33.7-inch range of seat heights."
Being 5' 7" doesn't help much either. I was at my dealer last evening and sat on all the adventure type bikes they had. I could nearly flat foot the Super Tenere. The Duc Multistrada and KTM 990 Adventure were both tip-toe only affairs. No problems with the KLR. Might be time to consider surgical leg extensions.
The 800 GS and 800 XC were both pretty darn tall for me too... otherwise I'd probably have one of those instead of the Tenre, my test ride just about glued me to the bike after I found it sat that low.
Interesting. I'm 6'3" with a 36" inseam and also found the Tenere slightly more comfortable than the 800XC, so was leaning toward the Yamaha. But in my case, the higher seat height, the better, but the real issue for me is the seat to peg distance. The closer my knees can be to 90 degrees, the happier they are. Looking forward to the motorcycle shows this winter.
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I think it's likely that Triumph plans to sell a shorter seat as an option/accessory like they do with the other Tigers.
Bones
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(I think people key in on my being skinnier than they are.)
sherob
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That is priceless... ROFL!
Bones
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Well, I am actually fairly tall for my width.That is priceless... ROFL!
sherob
Old Herder of cats.
That you are... Big in heart too.
Sat on the Explorer yesterday at the IMS and it feels about the same height and weight as a GS to me. If it comes in close to the same price as a Super10 it'll throw a monkey wrench into my commitment to the Yamaha....Dam just when I thought I knew what I wanted
sherob
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I'm seeing 11k to 11.5k pounds pricing rumors... That's $17k plus.
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Apparently the new Explorer only has a 20 litre tank. Unless the engine has amazing fuel economy the small tank is disappointing!
Unless the engine has amazing fuel economy the small tank is disappointing!