(FCE) Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST1300 - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

Your experience with the FCE?

  • NO ISSUES: I have the FCE and am happy with it

    Votes: 51 68.0%

  • REPLACED: I had an FCE w/issues and it was replaced, no issues now

    Votes: 3 4.0%

  • EXTERNAL: I have an FCE w/issues but they ended up being something else

    Votes: 3 4.0%

  • OUTSTANDING: I have an FCE w/issues

    Votes: 11 14.7%

  • REPLACED: I had an FCE w/issues and it was replaced, still have issues

    Votes: 7 9.3%
  • Total voters
    75
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

LOL I'm in whatever % of ST riders that don't have a big problem with the throttle....in the first place. I did change to the G2 during the group buy....and that was an improvement. I just don't have a big problem with the throttle response. I ride a lot and am "in touch" with the bike...maybe that's part of it. I wouldn't want to cut into wires for the ECU. Reliability issues start to appear the more you mess with any bike. I've been careful with the addition of every "farkle"....to reduce the potential for problems.
I hope those who try this "fix" the best of luck. Keep us posted!
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

I have a FCE from Ivan on my 2006 FZ1 Yamaha and it made a big difference on that bike. The ST1300 FCE may not be as dramatic a change.
The FCE kit came with bullet connectors so you can remove it and plug the wires back together like stock. I had the bullet connectors crimped and soldered and have not had a problem.
I have not seen the FCE for the ST1300, but I guess it would be similar.
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

I talked to Ivan for a half hour Friday got some info on install like removing the rack to get to the computer, he is in
Congers, NY and will talk on phone if available.
Site now has $130 price and mid April availability.
 
jordanv said:
I just picked up my bike with Ivan's new fuel cut eliminator for the ST. Throttle response is flawless. I put 210 miles on the bike today under various riding conditions from high speed riding to traffic jams.

The throttle now seems more like a rheostat connected to a electric motor than a throttle. Response is instantaneous, linear, and smooth. I now know what the Honda engineers were intending when the built the ST drive train. I always thought ST engine was always smooth and I did not think it could be smoother, but now it is. When I tried to identify the transition from full throttle close by rolling the throttle off and on I could not identify the transition - totally seamless at any RPM or any gear. Also when doing a cold start the engine immediately jumps to the warm up RPM - no variation or lumpiness - its like the tach needle is glued to tach face. Also after warm up the same thing. - Now there is no need to feather the clutch when making tight u-turns, - and I able to take slow speed turns on a washboard road without any sensitive throttle jerkiness from the bumps in the road.

Another benefit is improved mileage - about 2 miles/gallon improvement on the first tank measured by the gas put at the station. This might be the result of putting the stock pressure regulator on the bike. I had the had the Turbo Tom Fuel Pressure Regulator but Ivan put stock pressure regulator back on and tuned the bike with everything stock.

The bike also seems to run cooler since I did not feel the normal heat out of the engine ducts. However since the temperature varied between 45 and 52 degrees today, I need to see what happens on a warmer day before I am sure about the impact of the FCE on engine heat.

My bike has been a development test mule all winter, but it was well worth the wait. Ivan expects to have the units ready for sale within a month.
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The FCE definitely reduces engine heat output. I put on about 200 miles today with temperatures in the mid 70's - hardly any noticeable heat even in traffic.
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Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

My 2007 with only 1,800 miles is having the exact issues and its driving me nuts. I live in Denver and thought the altitude may contribute to the problem but see that other forum members in this area have no issues. I spoke with Ivan this week and I look foward to trying his new product. My light throttle surge or flat spot occurs everytime I ride so noticing a change for the better won't be a problem. If anyone in the Denver metro area is experiencing this problem I would like to hear from you.

Tony
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

I was just over at Ivan's page and the FCE for the 13 is available mid April..........$130
He states it's for a stock bike, no pipes, no HP fuel pressure reg or aftermarket air filter...rats..
I have the stayintunes, k&n with a TT fuelpressure regulator...
Oh well, gonna try it anyway...

mitch
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

I just completed another 600 miles with the FCE. I know that from the Dyno charts the horsepower and torque are the same. However when riding the bike it definitely feels like it has more power. I have experienced power wheelies when rolling on the throttle that did not occur before the FCE installation - especially interesting when accelerating out of a corner - but the power is so smooth I didn't really notice until the front wheel touched down. Also high speed (triple digit) acceleration is much stronger than before.

Mileage continues to be about 1-3 MPG better that the bike with the TT fuel pressure regulator.
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

Jordan,
Is your bike stock?? any pipe/aircleaner/fuelpressure mods???

mitch
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

If I read it right Ivan says that only about 1% of us ST ers do any mods to gain more power. I wonder how correct he is? I have found a company which produces EFI's for other companies and also sells their own brand.They claim to have one for the ST which uses 2 O2 sensors similar to the new PC. I am going to ask for more information. The company is http://www.techlusion.com/default.asp The EFI does not show on the web site but an email from them says they do make one for the ST Let you know the results.
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

jordanv said:
However when riding the bike it definitely feels like it has more power.
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If New York has winter and summer gas formulations, you may have crossed that boundary. Before ethanol, Virginia did, and it was pretty easy to tell when it happened.

--Mark
 
Blrfl said:
If New York has winter and summer gas formulations, you may have crossed that boundary. Before ethanol, Virginia did, and it was pretty easy to tell when it happened.

--Mark
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I buy my gas in New Jersey since it is cheaper. New Jersey gas formulation is the same year round due to state law environmental.
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Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

So it appears that it is 50 State emissions legal based on his statement on the site that it is 100% EGA efficient. At least that is how I interpret the meaning of that statement. I now have many farkles but none that affect the actual powertrain. The warranty issue seems to be a valid concern.

I waited many months to get a G2 Throttle Tamer as I was accustomed to delicate throttle ops but wanted to see what it offered. Postings here naturally had varied opinions but the price was affordable. After a few good rides, the G2 was not worth the time or money to me. The G2 IS definitely sensitive to how the throttle cable is adjusted, that is for sure. That is probably why there seems to be a wide discrepancy in opinions as to whether it is just wonderful or not much better than the stock throttle tube. So, it seems best to me to let the wealthier, more adventurous among us take the plunge and I'll monitor from a distance. I sure like the concept of a totally smooth "rheostat" type of throttle performance. I relish great tactile feel in vehicle controls. That's what makes it fun for me.
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

If you download and read the ST1300 instructions it has a note about "O2 sensors not present or disconnected" so would not be emissions legal.
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

The job of the O2 sensor is to keep the air fuel ratio at 14.7 to 1. The reason for this is for the catalytic converters. The converters are sensitive to over fueling. Too much HC in the exhaust stream will destroy the converters, the most valuable tool in controlling emissions. So beware of anything that might destroy a very expensive and environmentally helpful part.
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

Byron said:
If you download and read the ST1300 instructions it has a note about "O2 sensors not present or disconnected" so would not be emissions legal.
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Ok, I'm confused............ are you talking about Ivan's FCE? or the techillusions device??? If it's Ivan's FCE where did you see the instructions???

mitch
 
Re: Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

Any pictures of this and or the installation?
 
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