(FCE) Fuel Cut Eliminator for ST1300 - On-Off Throttle Issue Resolved

Your experience with the FCE?

  • NO ISSUES: I have the FCE and am happy with it

    Votes: 51 68.0%

  • REPLACED: I had an FCE w/issues and it was replaced, no issues now

    Votes: 3 4.0%

  • EXTERNAL: I have an FCE w/issues but they ended up being something else

    Votes: 3 4.0%

  • OUTSTANDING: I have an FCE w/issues

    Votes: 11 14.7%

  • REPLACED: I had an FCE w/issues and it was replaced, still have issues

    Votes: 7 9.3%
  • Total voters
    75
I don't notice much of a difference with mine either and I have at least 15K+ miles on it. It really bugged me on my recent trip out west when descending down the mountains. You get that delayed deceleration that gets annoying.

I find the best way to improve the abruptness is to run the idle higher.
 
My bike (2003) never had the huge issues reported by some. Ivan's FCE certainly helps. It is a subtle change however. I didn't expect an electric gizmo to make up for driveline lash or my lack of technique. I'm pleased overall with the improvement.



The shipping, instructions, crimps and crimper were all top notch IMO. No issues. PS - the crimper I got also crimps the Hitachi type OEM terminals.
 
I Installed Ivan's FCE to remove the slight hesitation and surge I notice when the engine runs between 3400 and 4100 RPM's. Unfortunately it exaggerated the problem and the slight hesitation and surge was noticeably larger. I called Ivan and he claimed that since the bike was doing this before I installed the FCE, that it was a problem with the bike and not the FCE. Forget the fact that it claims to help with this very issue so unfortunately, I am a dissatisfied customer. I have since removed it and just live with the slight hesitation and surge. By the way, when testing the FCE, I ran the bike with completely stock pipes, air filter and fuel pressure regulator and checked to make sure the throttle bodies were synched before and after install.
 
Does anyone know if the Bazzaz product eliminates the fuel cut-off characteristic? I had Ivan's FCE and it made no difference at all in that regard. I tried three different versions on my '06 & the cut-off feature was still there.
 
I'm not at all familiar with the "Bazzaz" product, but I had the original FCE unit which was later replaced by the revised version, and I can feel a distinct difference WITH the FCE. While waiting for the replacement (revised version) FCE, I was reminded of the throttle "snatch" which was so prevalent at lower RPMs ... especially in the twisties. In addition, I recently replaced my K&N air filter, and returned to a paper filter as recommended by Ivan, and my throttle response is almost seamless. Count me as a FCE fan.
 
The FCE really didn't do anything for my 06 but make it get a surge when going down steep hills when getting back on the throttle after coasting. It's real nice when you are accelerating into a corner after coasting.
 
What's a guy suppose to do? :confused:
I just found out about the FCE and was real excited about installing one because of all the early success that was posted. But after reading the later posts I'm not so sure. :(
The survey does point to more success than failure though.
Has anyone been able to get a refund because there wasn't a noticeable difference?
 
JimSTer said:
What's a guy suppose to do? :confused:
I just found out about the FCE and was real excited about installing one because of all the early success that was posted. But after reading the later posts I'm not so sure. :(
The survey does point to more success than failure though.
Has anyone been able to get a refund because there wasn't a noticeable difference?
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I did not get a refund, but I did not really try. I did not notice any difference with it on or off. At most a VERY subtle change. i suspect the bike breaking in made more difference in the performance of the throttle. I would not recommend. I did modify my throttle grip profile to give it a less "aggressive" take up, and it helped.
 
Mixed results from some.

I liked mine the moment I put it on, could tell instantly in the lower gears when making intersection turns or in the tight twisties. I can't even remember the issue on when it would show up since I got so used to it not being there anymore. In the twisties in 2nd gear I think, there would be a noticeable issue and that went away or was reduced quite a bit due to the FCE. So, for me a very positive result.
 
I had an issue with my original FCE device, and I removed it in order to send it back for the revised replacement. The replacement, which supposedly uses a different source for its power supply (without further modification to the on-bike wiring), has been working flawlessly. And I'll add that I was in agony those couple weeks waiting for the newer version. My vote is to get one. Going back to stock for a short time confirmed it was worth every penny spent.

EDIT TO ADD: Compared to others, some riders may not have as great a "feel" for how their bike responds to throttle input, and likewise, may not notice a difference. I know of another product (for a 4WD truck) in which a buyer installed the product and later admitted that he never "felt" the issue it was supposed to correct ... left me wondering why he bothered in the first place. Bottom line: If the throttle-snatch bothers you, the FCE will help.
 
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It made quite big positive difference for me! Whatever causes the throttle issues seems to vary from bike to bike. My had a quite severe issue, so for me it was a big plus.

The severity of the issue with my bike could also be why the DynoJet Power Commander didn't work for me. They never figured it out after spending a day with my bike on a dyno. They left town with no solution and pulled the product for the ST based on their work on my bike.
 
Ordered an FCE today. I work real hard on my throttle control, but I cannot completely tame the off-on behavior even with lots of focused throttle control practice. I'm not a racer, so the throttle control entering turns at 6-7K is not on my "fix" list, but smooth, lower speed, relatively tight corner entry is still not possible at my skill level. I plan to do the Lee Parks clinic in Denver in September, and I think this might help out a bit. Guess I'll find out. Not such a huge outlay even if it does not do much, and the installation is reversible. Will advise once it is installed and some time on the throttle with it.
 
I added a G2 throttle tamer on mine. Considerably smoother, and since it's 1/4 the price of the FCE... it smooths out the cash flow too.
YMMV
 
I have the FCE and the G2.. Took all the slop out of the cables also.. Nice smooth throttle. Only problem is sometimes the FCE gets weird and I have to turn the engine off then on and it's OK. Doesn't happen often but it happens. Some people, instead of the FCE use the rear brake method. Whilst going into a corner they use a slight amount of trail braking and apply throttle before totally releasing the rear brake.
No clunk...
 
mitch96 said:
Only problem is sometimes the FCE gets weird and I have to turn the engine off then on and it's OK. Doesn't happen often but it happens.
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Sounds like you have one of the earlier models?? That issues was fixed in a later version of the FCE.
 
adamk said:
Sounds like you have one of the earlier models?? That issues was fixed in a later version of the FCE.
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Yup,, and Ivan won't "upgrade" my model either, I asked…. When it happens I just lower the kickstand a touch, the engine cuts out for a second and then restart.. Off I go.. easy peasy..

Randy, when you get your FCE practice crimping on some junk wire.. When you can 100% crimp with no fail.. go for the bike..
 
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I consider it a waste of $$. Taking the slack out of the throttle cable did more.
If I didn't butcher up my harness I would just take it off but I would rather no go plugging and unplugging all those wires. One thing that is annoying with the FCE is when you're on a long downhill coasting and all of a sudden you have a lot of engine braking.
 
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