Oil filter recommendations
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Thanx. I just ordered two from my local O'Reilly auto parts store.
rwthomas1
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Here ya go: Good filter for the money. Buy 3, makes the shipping reasonable.
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Kevcules
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Because it’s not necessary and costs more. Synthetic oil filter filtration is just made with synthetic fibres and can be used with any oil.
I’ve never had an issue with using basic aftermarket oil filters and change my oil at reasonable intervals.
You probably will never have an issue using a basic aftermarket filter. For all of us regardless of the filter we use the concern should be quality control. I’m inclined to think that higher priced well respected brands have better quality control. I’m sure we have all seen the videos of cheap filters being made in the thousands in the back streets of some third world city. I don’t want one of those on my bike.
just changed mine yesterday, went with the K & N 204-1. Not having a lift table reduces the simplicity of the process, that filter is
buried way in there. The K&N has a 17MM nut fixture on the back making removal with a socket wrench a BREEZE!!
buried way in there. The K&N has a 17MM nut fixture on the back making removal with a socket wrench a BREEZE!!
Keep an eye on your K&N as they have had a few recalls, and have a habit of puking out oil when your spot welded nut let’s loose.
K&N does not make them, they are highflow filtro filters that they rebrand with K&N on them.
K&N does not make them, they are highflow filtro filters that they rebrand with K&N on them.
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When I was doing fleet maintenance I did filter research, granted this was many years ago so the filter quality has changed since then. But the requirement haven't
The main comparisons that the engine manufactures looked at was element size by square inches, micron filtering size and sediment capacity.
With todays closed engine systems sediment capacity is not significant, the micron filtration is pretty much standard from major filter and engine manufacturers and meets the engine supplier. The amount of media has never been an issue with proper maintained engines.
The only real failure that I ran into with major manufacturers was filters that had contaminants in the box before installation. Some of the filters had the media folded over where the ends met, some used a strip of glue to seal the media together. they both work well. The size of the spring at the bottom is only used when the media can't pass enough oil to supply lube to the engine and lets unfiltered bypass oil in hopes that it saves it. Which is why it is called a bypass spring.
The engine manufacturer all wanted you to use their filter. They all were fine as well as most of the after market filters. (As in the really cheap ones. I did have Mighty try to sell me ones and almost ran them out with a blunt object)
All filters let a small micron oil pass through as the engine manufacturers deem the size isn't detrimental to the engine. To fine of an element will plug the filter earlier than others, but most filters have enough sediment capacity to be ok
So with all things considered if you use a major name with a quality oil chances are fairly high that you will be fine no matter what is used.
That said I am not a fan of reusable filter because of the chance of contaminates introduced into the system by the cleaning process.
AND FOR GODS SAKE, NEVER USE TOILET PAPER FILTERS. (I said that as a joke as using them would be a joke)
The main comparisons that the engine manufactures looked at was element size by square inches, micron filtering size and sediment capacity.
With todays closed engine systems sediment capacity is not significant, the micron filtration is pretty much standard from major filter and engine manufacturers and meets the engine supplier. The amount of media has never been an issue with proper maintained engines.
The only real failure that I ran into with major manufacturers was filters that had contaminants in the box before installation. Some of the filters had the media folded over where the ends met, some used a strip of glue to seal the media together. they both work well. The size of the spring at the bottom is only used when the media can't pass enough oil to supply lube to the engine and lets unfiltered bypass oil in hopes that it saves it. Which is why it is called a bypass spring.
The engine manufacturer all wanted you to use their filter. They all were fine as well as most of the after market filters. (As in the really cheap ones. I did have Mighty try to sell me ones and almost ran them out with a blunt object)
All filters let a small micron oil pass through as the engine manufacturers deem the size isn't detrimental to the engine. To fine of an element will plug the filter earlier than others, but most filters have enough sediment capacity to be ok
So with all things considered if you use a major name with a quality oil chances are fairly high that you will be fine no matter what is used.
That said I am not a fan of reusable filter because of the chance of contaminates introduced into the system by the cleaning process.
AND FOR GODS SAKE, NEVER USE TOILET PAPER FILTERS. (I said that as a joke as using them would be a joke)
Years ago British Leyland had a bunch of vehicles come off the assembly line with swarf in their oil filters. They didn’t make great cars but I’m still sorry they went out of business eventually, which was nothing to do with the relatively small oil filter incident.
Who makes your oil filters? Purflux and Goodwill are also made in India, as is Fram.
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One thing I noticed with all these comments, that folks may be missing, is all these things change often every time a new contract comes up.
Folks should open up the box and look into the filter to verify that is is STILL the filter they think they are using.
Champion labs makes several filters for many companies etc.
I’ve notice that Bosch, Mobil 1, super tech, purolator, and many other filters change often.
So while you may think your using the same filter as last time, your brand loyalty could surprise you when you find out things changed.
When Fram took over the HD Premium $20 dollar filters, quality went in the toilet!
This is a filter with only a few hundred miles on it, using their synthetic oil.
Folks should open up the box and look into the filter to verify that is is STILL the filter they think they are using.
Champion labs makes several filters for many companies etc.
I’ve notice that Bosch, Mobil 1, super tech, purolator, and many other filters change often.
So while you may think your using the same filter as last time, your brand loyalty could surprise you when you find out things changed.
When Fram took over the HD Premium $20 dollar filters, quality went in the toilet!
This is a filter with only a few hundred miles on it, using their synthetic oil.
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rwthomas1
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One of the reasons I like Baldwin. They make their own filters right here in the USA, and they have been doing it for a long time. I have seen a few comparisons and the Baldwins had the features of the "premium" filters but at a regular filter price. If you've never heard of them they are Fleet/Industrial suppliers, but they do automotive as well. I get mine from adiesel.com as they are close and prices are good. No affiliation just a customer.
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years ago dodge and cummins would refuse engine warranty if you used fram filters, i dont know if its still true but i only use fleetguard on my dodge which is owned by cummins,
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Honda is heavily committed to the quality process and requires vendors to meet ISO standards which are going to require extensive tracking and reporting of deviations from benchmarks set by Honda. Getting ISO certification is not easy and it's easy to loose it without adherence to rigid data tracking & reporting requirements. Even before contracts are awarded Honda will have associates visiting a prospective vendor's manufacturing facilities and may be posted there long term after contracts are awarded. No matter where a vendor manufactures the OEM part(s) it will meet Honda’s approvals. There’s a couple backstops downstream. Honda single sources OEM parts to dealers so dealers can only get certified OEM from Honda through the Honda parts order system. Getting counterfeit OEM from Honda would be extremely difficult. If a dealership’s filter orders don’t match up with expectations based on historical data and observations made by the regional Honda reps that regularly visit dealers then someone should begin asking questions. I don’t remember the guy’s department title but when I was a dealership parts manager ordering daily in the Honda order system this guy would call from time to time mostly because they wanted us to sell more of the Honda brand oil products sold in quart/gallons. The dealership chose to buy service department oil by the 55 gallon drum from Honda but most every dealer will sell competing oils that on the parts department shelves and we were no different. Bel-Ray, Motul, Motorex. Customers want an alternative to Honda branded oil. Point being Mother Honda was watching of course that Honda OEM parts and Honda branded oil was at least being featured in the store but also for a reason perhaps not readily apparent. It wasn’t just revenue or greed. To circle back to Honda’s obsession with the quality process, customer and dealer complaints about Honda products are extremely important to the process of continuous quality improvement and this feedback is essential to Honda maintaining and improving quality. If dealers aren’t selling OEM parts there is less product data feedback to the quality improvement process.
It might seem that I am the ultimate Honda OEM filter fanboy but I assure you that isn't the case. I'm mostly motivated by claims marked by a complete absence of objective data that Honda OEM is crap. Opinions backed up with no data. It's true I mostly use Honda oil filters on my Honda bikes but I had a long run with Bosch. In the cars I've owned since I started driving in 1973 I am not nearly as discriminating. In the last 15 years several of our Hondas went over 200,000 miles using a variety of filter brands.
Oil related failures due to filter choice are so rare as to be statistically never as long as the oil is a name brand, meets manufacturers' recommendation and changed when called for. I've owned a surprising number of vehicles whose engines did not even have oil filters.
It might seem that I am the ultimate Honda OEM filter fanboy but I assure you that isn't the case. I'm mostly motivated by claims marked by a complete absence of objective data that Honda OEM is crap. Opinions backed up with no data. It's true I mostly use Honda oil filters on my Honda bikes but I had a long run with Bosch. In the cars I've owned since I started driving in 1973 I am not nearly as discriminating. In the last 15 years several of our Hondas went over 200,000 miles using a variety of filter brands.
Oil related failures due to filter choice are so rare as to be statistically never as long as the oil is a name brand, meets manufacturers' recommendation and changed when called for. I've owned a surprising number of vehicles whose engines did not even have oil filters.
I think I like this WIX one best, for the price, and free shipping. But I’m happy to pay a little more for the Mobil 1 filter at Walmart also. The Baldwin filters appear to be expensive.
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Andrew Shadow
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Which is exactly why I wrote that
It is just not worth the time required to make sure that what I intend to buy is, or still is, a good alternative every time that I want to buy oil filters. Whether or not the Honda filter is the best on the market is not relevant to me. What is relevant to me is that I have confidence that the Honda filter does meet all of Honda's requirements. Further to that, I can have this confidence every time that I buy the Honda filter, regardless of who is making it for them at the moment, without having to research it every time. For those who do wish to do this research, more power to you. For me, it is just not worth the investment in time. The decision to go with the Honda filter is an easy one that I make with no worries that my engine will suffer any harm because of it.
Besides, it was very liberating when I adopted this practice. It freed up all kinds of research time that I could use for far more important issues, like what oil and what moly paste I should use.