STFlips
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Ha ha Gerhard, I was thinking that too! But I have been considering buying that breaker and duck bill too. Robert, post pics when you have it all working. Thanks, Bruce
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Mophead
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Had a Coats 220 for about 30 years and changed many many tires with that machine. Gave $100 for it and sold it for $800. That made the down payment on a derek weaver air machine similar to Uncle Phil's. It will never pay for itself but I have picked up some new friends who need tires changed now and then. Six Miller Lights in bottles goes a long way around here!
Uncle Phil
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Derek Weaver - that's the machine that Beemerphile had IIRC.
I think it is a little better quality than the one I got with their additional 'helper' arm that his machine had.
I looked at the Coats 220 but decided to go with the Atlas one.
ST1100Y
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Just ordered such a kit for my pneumatic machine, eases handling MC wheels and enables clamping smaller scooter wheels...
LOL
GF's dad is already requesting an appointment for his scooter...
I have a coats 220 and think it’s pretty good. A friend has an auto shop with a nice air/electric machine I can use any time and I find m/c tires easier on the old Coats. Except breaking the bead. They pop up on Craigslist occasionally.
Mophead
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Nothing wrong at all with the Coats 220. I must admit I was better with it than the new air machine but have finally figured it out. The stiff sidewall touring tires are a bear whatever machine you use.
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That's not for a drop center, that's to hold the lip in place so it doesn't crawl off the rim while you're trying to get the rest of the lip on the rim... no mar has a drop center tool as well.I use the Yellowthing. It works pretty good.
Wouldn't a couple of large C-clamps work as well and cost less?
I have the the yellow thing. it helps some but slips some.
I believe No Mar says the drop center UP posted does not work for Goldwing tires. I don’t know why. Maybe it drops it too much or not enough.
The one I posted is adjustable to two different levels of drop. I bought one and it appears that it will work. Going to get another one or two before next tire change. Was wondering if anyone had used one.
I believe No Mar says the drop center UP posted does not work for Goldwing tires. I don’t know why. Maybe it drops it too much or not enough.
The one I posted is adjustable to two different levels of drop. I bought one and it appears that it will work. Going to get another one or two before next tire change. Was wondering if anyone had used one.
It might. I may have to try that.
They should work as bead-breakers, too.
No but if you search drop center tool in Amazon or Ebay they come up. It looks as if they are all the same.
ST1100Y
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Besides not holding the bead/sidewall properly in the drop center, bar and handle are getting in the way while rotating the wheel...
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C clamps might scratch the wheel as well if you’re not careful. I’ve used the plastic one in the pic above (the black one)- it’s spring loaded and easily to put on/ take off to maintain the tire in the drop center- I think 2 of them might be about $20 on amazon. They help quite a bit because you can fight a tire all day that won’t go on, but if you use the right tools, you can finesse them on no problem.
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My duck arm is completed, I had a machine shop make me a mounting bracket for the duckbill. All the fittings were found at Canadian Tire from the plumbing aisle. Nothing is welded it’s all threaded together. If I require more leverage I can stick a bar into the end of the pipe.
When I bought the duckbill I also bought a pair of bead centre clamps
The bead breaker stand was $79, the plumbing hardware $20, machine shop was $40. The duckbill and clamps was $58. All Canadian funds. Total cost was around $200. That’s a season of tire changes for me.
I need to buy some foam pipe noodles to put on the ring to protect my rims. There are nylon clips, but not happy about those.
What I need to watch out for are the 90° valve stems as they can interfere with the ring, I’m hoping the foam will help.
With this set up, I have to make sure the speedo gear is not facing up as the centre pipe will interfere with the speedo tabs. I plan to put a rubber cup on the bottom of the centre pipe to protect the wheel bearings when I spin the duck around.
When I bought the duckbill I also bought a pair of bead centre clamps
The bead breaker stand was $79, the plumbing hardware $20, machine shop was $40. The duckbill and clamps was $58. All Canadian funds. Total cost was around $200. That’s a season of tire changes for me.
I need to buy some foam pipe noodles to put on the ring to protect my rims. There are nylon clips, but not happy about those.
What I need to watch out for are the 90° valve stems as they can interfere with the ring, I’m hoping the foam will help.
With this set up, I have to make sure the speedo gear is not facing up as the centre pipe will interfere with the speedo tabs. I plan to put a rubber cup on the bottom of the centre pipe to protect the wheel bearings when I spin the duck around.
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Not trying to be negative, but I’m afraid that’s going to twist where the u bolts are at the least. There is a lot of force required to change some tires.
It is a concern duly noted. If need be,I will have a sleeve welded up with set screws.
Thanks