Seems large displacement twins need more oomph to start than similar displacement 4 cylinder engines.I probably would not have gone for a Lithium battery except that my Super Tenere was barely starting with the OEM TTZ12S.
Seems large displacement twins need more oomph to start than similar displacement 4 cylinder engines.I probably would not have gone for a Lithium battery except that my Super Tenere was barely starting with the OEM TTZ12S.
Agreed. My old Norton, which was only 750cc, was a bear to start sometimes, not for light weight folks!Seems large displacement twins need more oomph to start than similar displacement 4 cylinder engines.
Maintenance-free gel (or similar) batteries seem to be quite good. I've got one in my PCX150, lying on its side, it has been in there since December 2016 and never given a problem, even after the scooter stood for 5 weeks during lockdown it cranked perfectly.A battery supplier around here no longer sells lithium motorcycle batteries either. He said that he had way to many returns and warranty claims to make it worth his trouble. He didn't have an explanation and I don't think that cared what the reason was. From his perspective, they were just a problematic product.
Yes they are. Maintenance-free, gel, FLA and AGM batteries are not the same animal as Lithium. He still sells all of the various variants of lead acid batteries, he just won't sell the lithium anymore. If I ever go back that way, and if I don't forget, out of curiosity I will ask him why he made that decision. I am not sure that he will have a specific reason to give me however. It seemed clear the time that I did speak to him that lithium batteries were causing him grief and he wanted to end the grief and didn't really care about what was wrong with the batteries. It might have nothing to do with the batteries. Maybe his supplier was abusing them for all we know. All the same result from his perspective.Maintenance-free gel (or similar) batteries seem to be quite good. I've got one in my PCX150, lying on its side, it has been in there since December 2016 and never given a problem, even after the scooter stood for 5 weeks during lockdown it cranked perfectly.
Lead acid? You never used a Yuasa OEM ytz14s AGM type battery?I purchased this from amazon in 2016:
Shorai LFX Lithium Battery 19AH, 12V, EQ, ldquo,A&rdquo, 4 LFX19A4-BS12
I love the battery. It cranks faster than my old lead acid battery and doesn't ever seem to "lose" it's charge even when my ST sits for a few months. I have an 07 ST1300A . The battery is quite light and is smaller than the lead acid. It comes with foam inserts to fill the battery compartment. I would definitely recommend it. Mine is going on 4 years now with no issues.
What! Wouldn’t dare do that with my Yuasa battery! my headlights would run it down to uselessness in seconds !I have Shorai in both my ST1100 and FJ-09. No issue to report other than the amazement when I received the first one. I thought the box was empty... These are so light!
These don't like the cold. In lower temps, turn the key on letting the lights run a bit before trying to start so the battery will warm up.
Maintenance free? Is that a sealed gel, or can you add electrolyte?Maintenance-free gel (or similar) batteries seem to be quite good. I've got one in my PCX150, lying on its side, it has been in there since December 2016 and never given a problem, even after the scooter stood for 5 weeks during lockdown it cranked perfectly.
Are you serious? That would kill my Yuasa for sure!I have been using them for at least 4-5 years now I have shorai and I don't have any issues with them at all. The only thing you need to remember is when its cold 40 deg or less turn on the ignition for 10-15 seconds top warm up the battery before you crank it. Other than that no issues on two ST's.
An AGM battery is a lead-acid battery. Does GregO1969 mean an FLA (flooded lead-acid) battery? My 2010 came with the factory AGM. I can get 10min out of it before it won't start the bike. I've done that once. 10-15s wouldn't be a problem but with a lead-acid battery there's no need to.Lead acid? You never used a Yuasa OEM ytz14s AGM type battery?
Agree about the parasitic losses. If you don't plan to ride the bike for 4 weeks or longer it's better to disconnect. Agreeing to disagree on the charging. If they are not connected to anything, and warm, my experience is that they will sit months without losing charge.Lithium batteries are great as long as you remember that they have 1/3 the capacity of a similar AGM battery. I learned the hard way that they will become discharged 3x quicker from parasitic drainage than a lead acid battery. A ST1300 has lots of parasitic drainage due to its ECU and clock. Also, they do not like the cold, and you can ruin one if it becomes totally discharged. If you buy one , keep it on a lithium specific charger when not in use. I had a MMG lithium on my ST1300 for over five years with no other issues.
If that is the case your battery is only useful as s doorstop.Are you serious? That would kill my Yuasa for sure!