Not in the US. The Magnusson-Moss Act forbids a manufacturer from tying specific products or services (i.e., must be serviced by an authorized dealer or the oil must be their brand) to the warranty unless they're provided free-of-charge.
You're right it would most likely be more expensive to drop a RT vs. ST. However because the center of gravity of the RT is much lower, as it should be, the likelihood of dropping the RT is greatly reduced. I've owned both and never dropped ether (knock, knock). But I did have some very close calls with the ST. The handling of the RT at any speed is superior to the ST but at low speed there?s no comparison.
Um.. I don't have issues with slow riding on the ST, you just gotta ride it right...You're right it would most likely be more expensive to drop a RT vs. ST. However because the center of gravity of the RT is much lower, as it should be, the likelihood of dropping the RT is greatly reduced. I've owned both and never dropped ether (knock, knock). But I did have some very close calls with the ST. The handling of the RT at any speed is superior to the ST but at low speed there’s no comparison.
When I was a kid we had a few head of cattle and one of my jobs was to muck out the stalls with a shovel and a wheelbarrow. I never tipped the wheelbarrow over when it was empty.
As a comparison; the RT handles like an empty wheelbarrow while the ST handles like a wheelbarrow full of……let’s just say it’s “tippy”.
Therein, bluedragon effectively sums up all the opinions we have about motorcycles.
I agree... an old MC cop who was my MSF instructor says "... at slow speeds, lean the bike, at higher speeds lean with the bike...".
That's a cute story. I am associated with a large club of primarily BMW riders. When you get a number of oilhead and hexhead boxers together it is surprising the large number of bikes with scratches on the cylinder heads. While you may have never dropped your RT many other owners have tipped their wheelbarrows over.You're right it would most likely be more expensive to drop a RT vs. ST. However because the center of gravity of the RT is much lower, as it should be, the likelihood of dropping the RT is greatly reduced. I've owned both and never dropped ether (knock, knock). But I did have some very close calls with the ST. The handling of the RT at any speed is superior to the ST but at low speed there?s no comparison.
When I was a kid we had a few head of cattle and one of my jobs was to muck out the stalls with a shovel and a wheelbarrow. I never tipped the wheelbarrow over when it was empty.
As a comparison; the RT handles like an empty wheelbarrow while the ST handles like a wheelbarrow full of??let?s just say it?s ?tippy?.
Texas: Shhhhhh, they must not be talking about the bike, per s?, when they speak of "top heavy", eh?
All kidding aside, they are both great bikes. I think the reason that I was able to handle the ST and now the RT is that like you I practice. I also was willing to give up a weekend to take the experience riders course. This summer my brother in-law bought a big jap cruiser. I advised him to spend a little time practicing in the parking lot at slow speed. He didn?t and has dropped his bike three times. The final mishap resulted in my sister needing knee surgery.
Fortunately, BMW Motorrad and it's 80,000 plus and climbing a year in sales boxer owners don't agree with that assessment. The boxer has a loyal following among the Roundel set and they already tried to kill it once before with the K series in the early 80's. If it does go the way of the dodo bird, it will be emissions that does it in. And from the scuttlebutt I hear, there is talk of the next gen going liquid cooled, someway, somehow. If you believe that.
Yes I agree with you totally, the BMW has it's fans, and it will be around forever, I was just saying "I" think it should go away, but that is a little harsh, It shouldn't have said that , I agree just because I don't like it, doesn't mean there's not a place for it, it just wont be in my garage. but I do wish the RT had a different motor, I think it's a fantastic bike, thats let down by an out dated engine.