Bike Lifting after drop

[Mellow]

Tried many times without success) Maybe I need to go to gym, do squats and get some strength in legs)

In your video.. you're trying to squat and use your legs like a squat.. that's too much work..

Don't bend at 90 degrees... extend your legs a little more then just push back against the seat and take small steps walking backwards.. the bike just goes up much easier than trying to 'lift' it.

in this pic Raymond has a look on his face that suggests he's working hard but he was just playing around:

The problem with facing the bike is you risk your lower back and you could loose fitting and hit your face on the bike and possibly cause more harm. Well, depending on what your face looked like when you started ...

 

[W0QNX]

I have never been able to lift my st1100 pushing by back, but easily done it facing to bike. So I decided to repeat weight lifting in the workshop on the soft rug and recorded it)

Thanks for the video. It gives us something to discuss. I think if you would try having your back a lot more over the seat while leaning back, just like you do when you forward lift the bike, it might work. You will have to bend those knees a bunch more. Even in Mellow's pictures above you can see I tried to keep my back as vertical as possible during the lifting process. Lift with the legs only to save the back.

But the first thing you should always do when lifting the bike from the RIGHT side is drop the kick stand. This lowers the chances of picking up the bike twice 99%.

 

[ST Gui]

Maybe I need to go to gym, do squats and get some strength in legs)

Stout quads are your friends.

 

[Andrew Shadow]

I have never been able to lift my st1100 pushing by back, but easily done it facing to bike. So I decided to repeat weight lifting in the workshop on the soft rug and recorded it)

When you were facing the motorcycle you didn't try to lift it. You pushed horizontally against it rotating it on to its wheels.
When you were backwards you were trying to lift the motorcycle. That will never work. You have to push backwards against it and push it horizontally over on to its wheels, not try to lift it.

Try applying the same direction of force when you are backwards as you did when you were facing the motorcycle and it will be easier.

 

[Alberto]

Try applying the same direction of force

thanks for advices. Maybe this is the issue. But when I tried to push motorcycle horizontally "sitting" on the seat (placing bum over it) I didn't have enough traction of my feet even on concrete floor, not talking of grass or gravel...
Need to practice this exercise more, maybe ill find best posture for that)

 

[core-aggie]

thanks for advices. Maybe this is the issue. But when I tried to push motorcycle horizontally "sitting" on the seat (placing bum over it) I didn't have enough traction of my feet even on concrete floor, not talking of grass or gravel...
Need to practice this exercise more, maybe ill find best posture for that)

Takes practice !!

I rolled the ST and Gold Wing to that grassy area circled, and gently laid them down. Then practiced the "sdrawkcab lift" many times, till I felt confident and with reduced physical effort.

I purposefully avoided doing it on concrete, cause I wanted a bit more of a challenge ... and if you can do it on the dirt, the concrete would be easier.

 

[Alberto]

and if you can do it on the dirt

Sure thing, going to do it on the dirt at next offroad balance training - there are no chances to keep bike always upright )

 

[Henry McCann]

Thanks to all that posted...I've dropped my ST1300 twice. Both times a slow drop when I got over balanced. My wife helped once and a passerby helped the other time. Quick work with help. Now I have several options when alone.

 

[Andrew Shadow]

But when I tried to push motorcycle horizontally "sitting" on the seat (placing bum over it)

When you try it again, instead of sitting on the seat try pushing the lower part of your back/upper part of your bum against the seat to force the motorcycle to move horizontally.
As for the traction, I can't help you with that. The force needed to do this in most circumstances on most surfaces should not exceed the limit of the traction available.

 

[1300Granger]

On the subject of a jack or lift, has anyone tried something like a trailer jack lift, using a strap on the rear tip over bars? I have lifted the 1300 with a strap on the rear tip over bars with a hoist, and the trailer jack at 1 ton would handle the load. Something like the harbor freight 1 ton , which weights 10 lbs and would fit in the side bags. An old style bumper jack would be better, but I can't find anything that is short enough to store in the saddlebags (but I considered cutting one off to fit in the bags). The other option would be to store it secured on the rear luggage rack - should be ok size and weight wise.

 

[oude geit]

I learned all the shown situations are in ideal conditions. Dropped mine and went down once in Alaska....not ideal conditions, mud, snow, ice uneven surfaces. The only thing that worked was manpower.

 

[Uncle Phil]

I learned all the shown situations are in ideal conditions. Dropped mine and went down once in Alaska....not ideal conditions, mud, snow, ice uneven surfaces. The only thing that worked was manpower.

Funny how you seldom drop one on level, clean ground.
If it's level and clean, chances are you won't drop it!

 

[Larry Fine]

I came close to dropping my '96 at this past OH-STOC. Going to Campbell's grocery store in downtown McArthur, the GPS directed me to take Infirmary Rd. It started as gravel, which doesn't bother me, but quickly deteriorated into hard-packed dirt covered in rounded rocks.

I was worried. As I carefully slowed to a stop, the bike constantly shifted back and forth as I could hear the individual rocks go "Ping! Ping! Ping!" as they shot out from under the tires. It took me about five minutes of concentrating on keeping the bike upright as I slowly turned around.

I managed to make my way back toward the paved road, and I could feel the traction improving as the road turned back into gravel, where I could finally put my feet back on the pegs. If I had dropped the bike where I was, with no cellular service, I would have been there forever.

Rt. 14 here:

Grocery store

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[Pop-Pop]

Funny how you seldom drop one on level, clean ground.
If it's level and clean, chances are you won't drop it!

Yea, stay away from the come and go!

 

[Gerhard]

Here are a few methods for picking up a fallen bike

 

[Pop-Pop]

I picked my red up once by myself. After that, i waited for assistance. This greatly hampered my comfort zone when i toured. But, boy, did i have fun on my 11!

 

[gunsmoker]

I dropped my ST 1300 twice in the last year: both times the engine was off and I was attempting to park it on the center stand (once I incorrectly tried this while still on the saddle but the second time I did it the correct way, which had worked for me many times in the past, standing on the left side of the bike, one hand on the folding grab handle and one hand on the left handlebar grip). Today for some reason the bike wouldn't pop up and lock the center stand in place. Rather, it rolled forward then it wanted to fall to the right side I was unable to hold it up with me standing on the left, and it went down to the right.

Both times I dropped my bike I picked it up by facing it, crouching next to it, and lifting and walking into it, shoving it upward with my belly and thighs pushing on the seat.
Had my left hand somewhere on the frame just below the seat (not sure exactly what I was grabbing) and the other hand on the right handlebar grip ... it worked.

 

[SMSW]

I once used a come along in my driveway. Anchored the cable by looping it around the ball hitch on our car and the come along to the Bygdawg tip over guard on my ST. Worked like a charm...but I did have my wife squeeze the front brake lever. Most of the time, I used the butt against the seat, grip the rear frame and handlebar and lift with your legs.

 

[Winged_STer]

I have dropped my R1250 GS Adventure a couple of times (no need to dwell on the reasons ) and I fought, and wrestled, and grunted, and eventually gave up. If it hadn't been for the assistance of some good samaritans I would likely have needed to call a tow truck. This saved my bacon in more than one occasion. https://www.motobikejack.com/.