St1100 Full Restoration Rebuild
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I think you could build it as a non ABS, but you might have to be creative with the calipers etc.
I know ABSll brakes have been fitted to a non ABS so someone will know the answer. When I say fitted I don't mean ABS just the larger calipers.
Upt'North.
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Andrew Shadow
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A couple of things that come to mind that you should be aware of.
ABS has larger forks. If you have the ABS forks, you will need to order those parts for an ABS model.
I seem to recall that ABS had a different size wheel rim. Can't remember whether it was the front or back.
ABS also has different calipers from the non-ABS. I don't know how that affects caliper mounting.
The below thread might provide some insight identifying what you have based on serial numbers;
For a general overview: Talk model type, without much hype.
ABS has larger forks. If you have the ABS forks, you will need to order those parts for an ABS model.
I seem to recall that ABS had a different size wheel rim. Can't remember whether it was the front or back.
ABS also has different calipers from the non-ABS. I don't know how that affects caliper mounting.
The below thread might provide some insight identifying what you have based on serial numbers;
For a general overview: Talk model type, without much hype.
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I've not looked st the designation on the frame under the seat but from the Haynes manual and the link above from Andrew it it is definitely an Abs model.
The vin is JH2 SC26 B1 XM 300***
If I've got it right then the model year 1999 and should be the AX designation.
Are all the engine's interchangeable between the frames?
If so the next step is to source forks, swingarm and wiring loom/harness.
The vin is JH2 SC26 B1 XM 300***
If I've got it right then the model year 1999 and should be the AX designation.
Are all the engine's interchangeable between the frames?
If so the next step is to source forks, swingarm and wiring loom/harness.
ReSTored
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Just a general observation here is that if all you have is a bare frame and an engine, you're going to spend a fortune sourcing all the parts required for a complete rebuild to put a bike on the road. It would be far far cheaper for you to simply purchase a whole bike, then tear it down for a rebuild. It's not clear if the frame and engine came from your dad. If they did and for sentimental reasons you want to use them just swap them out for the parts on the whole bike.
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Hi restored,
Yes, you're right. It's going to cost a lot more sourcing the parts separately. I should have purchased a full bike rather than a bare frame.
The frame and engine came from the same seller in Hampshire, which is the south coast of England. Compared to where I live in the south Pennine hills of Lancashire the weather is night and day.
No snow or salt on the roads and much less rainy days means this 23 year frame is in excellent shape with virtually no rust. I couldn't resist.
Alas it wasn't my Dad's bike but using his tools will be a labour of love.
There is a monthly budget that I'll stick to and just plug away piece by piece, month by month until its complete.
Right now it's more about the work than the finished product. But that could change.
Yes, you're right. It's going to cost a lot more sourcing the parts separately. I should have purchased a full bike rather than a bare frame.
The frame and engine came from the same seller in Hampshire, which is the south coast of England. Compared to where I live in the south Pennine hills of Lancashire the weather is night and day.
No snow or salt on the roads and much less rainy days means this 23 year frame is in excellent shape with virtually no rust. I couldn't resist.
Alas it wasn't my Dad's bike but using his tools will be a labour of love.
There is a monthly budget that I'll stick to and just plug away piece by piece, month by month until its complete.
Right now it's more about the work than the finished product. But that could change.
Agree with this comment, and would like to add that many of the parts are no longer available from Honda at any price, especially bodywork like mirror covers, etc. Have you looked into the parts availability issues in detail? Take a look through the 1999 microfiche online and note how many parts are discontinued. For the parts that are available, if you're buying them one at a time you'll have a $50k bike by the time you're done, so you're probably going to end up buying a couple parts donor bikes in the process.
Thank you dwalby.
Will keep an eye out for a complete donor before buying any more individual parts.
Yesterday I finally got 2 simple parts that have been discontinued by Honda and it's taken me 3 years to track down and find some new old stock!
So there are still bits n bobs out there..... Don;t know if that helps or not.. lol
So there are still bits n bobs out there..... Don;t know if that helps or not.. lol
If you are starting from scratch, go with non-ABS. The parts are more plentiful.
The ABS II forks are a larger diameter so you will need the ABS II triple tree also. Both triple trees fit the frame. ABS II is '96 and newer. Older ABS forks are the same diameter as non-ABS
The ABS II front wheel is a different size, rotors are different size, and caliper is completely different. The rear wheel is the same size from day one. If you're staying with ABS, the wheel will need to be machined for the ABS trigger ring to be mounted.
An ABS II font end needs an ABS II front fender. It is a 2 piece unit and very difficult to find used and not available from Honda.
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Am trying to source a ST1100 spares/repairs bike with the plan of stripping it send putting clean or new parts on the frame I already have once it's powder coated.
So far it is proving difficult with none currently up for grabs on ebay.co.uk.
Does anyone know of any other sites that sell spares/repairs bikes?
So far it is proving difficult with none currently up for grabs on ebay.co.uk.
Does anyone know of any other sites that sell spares/repairs bikes?
Phil. When you're right you're right.
Even rough high mileage 11's seem to be going up in value. With very little out there below £2K.
If as suggested you decide to build it as an ABS without the ABS, be aware that if you buy an ABS donor then the wiring loom and other bits and bobs are different. I don't think they would be insurmountable but might give you headache. You could just source a Non ABS bike, when you can obviously. If I see anything I'll let you know.
Good luck.
Upt'North.
Thanks very much mate. I appreciate it.
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