What would you replace the ST1300 with?

TPadden said:
A Kawasaki Versys 1000 certainly checks my deal-for the money/ capability box. Never owned one, I have riden one, but I didn't park it at a Holiday Inn Express overnight. :thumb:

Tom
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Buy an ST1100 for $2000. They are readily available for that number. Spin the wrenches, spend another $2K on used seat, tires, brakes, address all the known weak points, and any other maintenance that needs to be done. You now have a bike that is dead reliable and can be ridden anywhere there is a paved road, for as long as your butt can stand it. Thats what I did, and I wouldn't hesitate to cross the country on it. Of course, you have to be willing to turn wrenches, and have, or learn the skills, to be able to pull this off. Or maybe not. I don't believe Pop-Pop from Boston does any serious wrenching, and he certainly wears out tires regularly all over the country. Same for Uncle Phil, but I know he has a full toolbox. Bottom line, nothing beats an ST1100-for the investment vs capability. The ST1300 is right there too. Their prices are dropping as well.
 
rwthomas1 said:
Bottom line, nothing beats an ST1100-for the investment vs capability. The ST1300 is right there too.
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The same points are made at EVERY BMW Airhead gathering, problem is two or three die hards don't necessarily make a convincing bottom line for everyone. ;)
rwthomas1 said:
Their prices are dropping as well.
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...so are their riders. :rofl1:

Yes, Honda ST's and their riders are all great! :thumb:

Tom
 
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TPadden said:
The same points are made at EVERY BMW Airhead gathering, problem is two or three die hards don't necessarily make a convincing bottom line for everyone. ;)

...so are their riders. :rofl1:

Yes, Honda ST's and their riders are all great! :thumb:

Tom
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Apples and oranges. I've ridden airheads. Great bikes but antiquated technology compared to an ST1100. There is a definite difference going from that to the ST. I've ridden some more modern stuff, and it isn't the quantum leap I expected. The only knock I can see with the ST is lack of cutting edge ABS. Im quite aware that most don't have the skillset to keep older stuff running, but most seem to have the checkbook and/or the love of "new". Thats fine, whatever it takes to make them happy. I'll happily grab the older stuff at pennies on the dollar.
 
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Jethro said:
Do you now ride a bike?

none listed on your space.Just sayin’
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Just refrencin' :rofl1:

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Uncle Phil said:
The biggest issue with the ST1100 is you have to become your own 'wrench' and 'parts house' since Honda shops will not touch them.
The same thing will happen to the ST1300 as time passes also - and any other machine with some age on it.
Nowadays if most 'mechanics' can't plug in a 'reader' into a motorcycle or automobile and have it tell them what is wrong, they can't 'fix' it. ;)
But sometimes that's like a crazy man diagnosing himself - he's fine, it's the rest of the world that's crazy! :biggrin:
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Yeah Phil I often think about that. I know that on a long trip if something happens and I cannot find a dealer and parts it's going to be expensive to rent a truck and trailer to haul it back home. Then having my mechanic tell me it's going to take big coin to fix it or their are no more parts.
 
red one said:
Yeah Phil I often think about that. I know that on a long trip if something happens and I cannot find a dealer and parts it's going to be expensive to rent a truck and trailer to haul it back home. Then having my mechanic tell me it's going to take big coin to fix it or their are no more parts.
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Renting a truck and getting back home is not much more expensive than just getting home if you have to fly - BTDTGTTS! :biggrin:

Uncle Phil - Newfoundland 2022
 
Well, being on bikes anything other than a simple nail in the tire can mean you need a tow.

ST1100 - could be fuel pumps or just older parts failing
ST1300 - could be a bad u-joint or wheel bearings
Yamahas - could have a rock take out your oil pan
BMWs - could be final drives or electronics
Harley - well, nothing, they're bulletproof....

So, in summary, what can replace an ST1300....Answer: Anything you like...
 
...... just the riders who also happily hang on to their "older stuff" rationalizing their decision in whatever way they can ......
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This is so true in so many cases. The rationalization process is more about convincing ones self that we have made the right decision, not convincing others.
Humans have an incredible ability to rationalize our decisions until they meet our emotional needs, regardless of what the reality is.

There are many for whom this is not the case however. For many, the decision is not a matter of having the money or the willingness to spend it. Some people just prefer a particular model of motorcycle, or they are completely happy with the motorcycle that they have and there is not even enough desire for a new motorcycle to even ignite the fuse to go and look let alone buy. @Uncle Phil strikes me as being in this category. If he came in to a stupid amount of money tomorrow, I would not be surprised to see that he is still riding an ST1100 on this day next year.
 
Andrew Shadow said:
This is so true in so many cases. The rationalization process is more about convincing ones self that we have made the right decision, not convincing others.
Humans have an incredible ability to rationalize our decisions until they meet our emotional needs, regardless of what the reality is.
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It is an attempt to find reasons for behaviors, especially one's own. That doesn't necessarily mean rationalizing isn't substantive in actual reality. :)

Again, there are many great reasons to own and ride Honda ST's, there are also reasons some might want to replace them with other modes of transportation. :thumb:

Tom

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So, in summary, what can replace an ST1300....Answer: Anything you like...
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Reading through this I found it a bit odd that some of you went the opposite direction I did. I went from a 650 V-Strom to my ST1300. Even though the ST weighs around 2X what the V-Strom does, I needed the lower seat height and higher weight carrying capacity of the bigger bike.
I'm not knocking the V-Strom in any way - I put about 60k miles on it making loads of 1000+ mile trips along with commuting almost every day. I just couldn't throw my leg over the higher seat any more and if I lowered it I couldn't ride 2 up.
So my next bike will probably be something along the same lines at the ST (FJR is currently on the top of that list) or a Gold Wing.
But that decision will hopefully be many years off because I'm enjoying every mile I put on my ST.
 
JackinFl said:
Reading through this I found it a bit odd that some of you went the opposite direction I did...But that decision will hopefully be many years off because I'm enjoying every mile I put on my ST.
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... and I find it a bit odd that you (and all the other "I'm happy staying with the Honda ST" replies) found it necessary to reply given the thread title. :rofl1:

Tom
 
Mellow said:
Then, I thought I wanted REAL sporty so went with the Tracer 900 GT.. Wonderful bike, light, very quick, loved riding it in the twisties.. however, range is not as good as wanted and wind/weather protection wasn't good at all. There was a lot of buffeting that I could never address. Still would do 1100 mile days but it was tiring..
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I sold the ST and got a new to me 2019 Tracer GT in 2021. For now the Tracer does it for me, no doubt the weather protector is nothing like an ST and with an RDL the ST excelled on all day rides. Key for me was the tech, the adjustable suspension, the handling and the almost 250 lb lighter weight. Great bike. Not a fan of how high the seat is, but it is workable.
 
Andrew Shadow said:
This is so true in so many cases. The rationalization process is more about convincing ones self that we have made the right decision, not convincing others.
Humans have an incredible ability to rationalize our decisions until they meet our emotional needs, regardless of what the reality is.

There are many for whom this is not the case however. For many, the decision is not a matter of having the money or the willingness to spend it. Some people just prefer a particular model of motorcycle, or they are completely happy with the motorcycle that they have and there is not even enough desire for a new motorcycle to even ignite the fuse to go and look let alone buy. @Uncle Phil strikes me as being in this category. If he came in to a stupid amount of money tomorrow, I would not be surprised to see that he is still riding an ST1100 on this day next year.
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It's that or we are hardcore cheap skates. Wonder if the OP also owns a 18 plus year old car like someone I know :biggrin:
 
NTausch said:
Agreed! A little heavier more power and checked everything I wanted on my ST1300. Loving it and so does the better half. 0DA89162-9266-4626-B9B0-FB7EAC0619F1.jpeg
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I guess your wife likes it. Lol Nice pick. Some ST-Owners have swapped out for the GTL.

The GT was just out of my price range. I did take advantage of a BMW test ride day. I knew what I was missing. I found a few older20220722_181058.jpg K1600s around our area but the reviews were concerning on maintenance issues.
A few more comparison reviews and I decided on new as I could find Trophy. It's about the same weight as the ST1300. I took it on a 8000 klm tour last summer to Newfoundland and I was really happy with it. Just sayin.
Dave
 
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