NT1100 is it the new ST?

[Upt' North]

That's what they said when they stopped making Subaru's with turbo's. After years of everybody bitching they started making them with turbos again. Iphones got bigger and bigger and then small was the 'new cool'. Fashions will come around again. Question is will we still be around to see it...

Yes, fashion goes full circle, although I'm never wearing flares again.
But........manufacturers are already stating their end dates for ICE powered bikes and it's not that far away. We might get a V4 shaped battery before we get a new V4 ICE 1300 cc powered motorcycle.
I believe the V4 provides a great engine for a motorcycle, I even own one, but it's not the only answer to the power source for a motorcycle.
Honda have already produced new touring capable motorcycles, even V4's, but they haven't been warmly received by us. There is no appetite to spend millions on a new touring bike that few will buy.........because it isn't a Pan.
Just saying.
Upt'North.

 

[Al st1100]

it's a Honda Versys 1100 LT

 

[pmatulew]

But........manufacturers are already stating their end dates for ICE powered bikes and it's not that far away. We might get a V4 shaped battery before we get a new V4 ICE 1300 cc powered motorcycle.

Absolutely. Need to phase out these capable machines and spoon feed us gruel so that when the electric bikes are ready our expectations will be low enough to make them palatable.

 

[Bill Flint]

Despite the technological advances in chains, I also still prefer shaft drive. It's also daft they didn't make the panniers big enough to take a helmet.
I'm enjoying my VFR1200X Crosstourer (V4, check; shaft drive, check) but once I've fixed up my ST1300 I may well go back to that, even though it's twice the age of the Crossie.

The VFR1200X is on my wish list

 

[the Ferret]

Yes, fashion goes full circle, although I'm never wearing flares again.

Actually Bells are back in, but being in my 70's, with no hair anymore, I doubt that I'd look cool in them anymore.

 

[Tedbrogden]

it's a Honda Versys 1100 LT

Hey, I'm riding a Versys and resemble that remark.

 

[Al st1100]

Hey, I'm riding a Versys and resemble that remark.

have some fun and remove the Kawasaki badges and put some Honda ones on

 

[Chris09]

I think it's been a great run and now it's over; everything gets better and that includes the ST. Hang it out long enough [and to their credit I think Honda did] and you're gonna get beat.

 

[the Ferret]

I just wonder if the AT motor will make a good sport touring powerplant.

The bike itself has heated grips and cruise, 2 things the ST 1300 sorely needed imo.

And with the NT no more burned-out windshield motors, no more SMC issues, and I've never read that of Africa Twins going thru thermostats. 3 weaknesses in the ST 1300.

IMO the weakness in the NT 1100 all depends on the desirability and function of the AT motor in a touring bike

 

[Tedbrogden]

Have to admit that one of the things I really like about the Versys is the inline 4 cylinder. Nice and smooth with lots of get up and go.

 

[Bush]

That's what they said when they stopped making Subaru's with turbo's. After years of everybody bitching they started making them with turbos again. Iphones got bigger and bigger and then small was the 'new cool'. Fashions will come around again. Question is will we still be around to see it...

Might be around to see it, but too damn old to ride it!

 

[ST Gui]

NT1100 is it the new ST?

Not for me.
Not without shaft drive.
I don't think giving up two cylinders and 200cc would take much adjustment but no shaft drive no deal. It's otherwise nicely equipped even if I'm not crazy about the windshield.

The aesthetics are a little insecty for my taste but if it had shaft drive I'd be really really tempted.

 

[Larry Fine]

Yes, fashion goes full circle, although I'm never wearing flares again.

That reminded me of the Billy Joel parody when Jordasche jeans were popular:

"Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new fashion jeans, but they're still dungarees to me!"

 

[Larry Fine]

I believe the V4 provides a great engine for a motorcycle, I even own one, but it's not the only answer to the power source for a motorcycle.

I'd like to see a V-6 engine in a sport-tourer.

 

[Upt' North]

I'd like to see a V-6 engine in a sport-tourer.

Larry, if you do, it won't be from big red.
Didn't Laverda have a dallience with a V6, might have been a race engine?
Upt'North.

 

[Erdoc48]

So if they don’t make ICE bikes any longer, are they going to be 1500 lb terrible handling bikes because of a big heavy battery (in the tourer form), or will they just have terrible range and basically be of little use to the riding crowd?

 

[Chris09]

I think it's Wikipedia but couldn't find it where this V6 appears as a concept. I wonder if any were built and if there were any specs.

 

[Andrew Shadow]

couldn't find it where this V6 appears as a concept

Search Honda X-wing and all kinds of stuff comes up.
Below is but one example;
Honda X-Wing.

 

[Raia]

Honda sucks they never put farkles on the st, my last st had all after market farkles , looking for a new bike I was looking at BMW 1250 because they are loaded but after a ride on one I didn’t like The pulsating cylinders , the st is so Smooth so I picked up a 4,000 mile st1300 P that’s in the garage getting all the farkles, Honda gave BMW gift by not putting farkles on their bikes.

 

[pmatulew]

So if they don’t make ICE bikes any longer, are they going to be 1500 lb terrible handling bikes because of a big heavy battery (in the tourer form), or will they just have terrible range and basically be of little use to the riding crowd?

Range and recharge time are going to be the issue. A coworker and I were researching them yesterday. $20K might get you 150 miles (at low speeds), then it has to sit and recharge. Same old story it has always been. Would be okay for low to medium speed urban use but the concept really falls on it's face for long distance highway travel.